Last post on Mar 02, 2011 at 8:56 AM
You are in the Prices Paid - Buying & Leasing Experiences
What is this discussion about?
Honda Element, Wagon, SUV
#746 of 750 Elements shortcomings and a sneaky dealership
Jul 16, 2010 (3:31 pm)
This is a perfect sized vehicle for my needs. I totally removed the back seats and use it as a van. I have some disappointments like The stereo system is ok at best. The front seats should've been able to go all the way forward when in forward position. The rustproofing found under the fender wells should've been sprayed everywhere on the undercarriage. It deceives a buyer into thinking he has rustproofing there.
In my opinion, even a weekend car painter knows that all the door jambs should be painted the same as the rest of the vehicle. My Element is like that n some parts of the jambs while the rest is the same as what you find under the hood. I cant believe this is standard for a car company like Honda. Or is mine one of the exceptions to the rule? But, because I failed to notice it during the excitement of the purchase its not their problem and they have the law on their side (according to Honda Windward's owner and GM) They know these problems were there prior to the sale but got it past me
The two side doors, with no center support, would be great for accessibility if the front seats didn't block 40% of the space. When I bought my Element I failed to notice the drivers door was out of alignment. What might have been a minor fix before the sale has turned into a big problem for me, again because I didn't see it before signing and driving off, its my problem. True they did attempt to realign the door for me but now I have air leaking from the seals. It is fixed to their satisfaction so, as far as they are concerned, nothing is wrong with the vehicle.
I've owned this vehicle for 2 months now and have not been happy for a moment and actually want to get rid of it because of the door. Otherwise Id be thrilled with it. Check every nook and cranny before you buy because they don't inspect before the sale which leaves the problems to you if you miss them at first.
Thanks Honda Windward Hawaii and Honda of America for the screwed up door and an unhappy customer. They know these problems were there prior to the sale but got it past me during the buying process. I'm wondering if I'm the only person out there that bought a Honda and were forced to settle with a less than perfect new car. Lucky you if you got one with no problems because we probably paid the same price.
May I strongly suggest that if you must buy a Honda do so from anywhere but Honda Windward in Kaneohe,Oahu,Hawaii.
#747 of 750 price paid for 2010 Element described in #746
Jul 16, 2010 (3:57 pm)
I paid $25,460.41 For the 2010 Element EX out the door. This price does not include any extended warranties or extras. I was told that I should feel lucky because the took their adjusted market value ($2,487.00) off the price listed on the vehicle. The listed price $26,357.25 not including tax and all the other fees added on. At first I was interested in the SC model but quickly changed my mind when they quoted me a price in the high $31,000.00. This dealership claims to be #1 in Hawaii for customer service and satisfaction. Who are they trying to kid... the dealership? Honda Windward of Hawaii SUCKS!!!!!
#748 of 750 Re: Price of 2010 [morin2]
Aug 16, 2010 (3:02 am)
I purchased a 2010 Element EX msrp $23,345.O.T.D. price $25,600 w/o extended warranty. At that time they had 2 used ones on their lot and both of them were 2 yrs old. They were priced in the upper $22,000. and I felt that was rather high priced. I asked a salesman about it and he said that the high prices give the impression that they hold their value and since it cost almost as much as a new one they end up selling a new one instead.
This sneaky sort of selling strategy can be found at Honda Windward. I cant say this holds true for all Honda Dealers in Hawaii or elsewhere but Honda Windward SUCKS!!! If you must drive a Honda do yourself a favor and buy elsewhere
#749 of 750 Re: Price of 2010 [morin2]
Oct 26, 2010 (12:57 pm)
Is that total price and what options did you have? Thanks
#750 of 750 2010 Clearance Pricing-NYC region
Mar 02, 2011 (8:56 am)
We received a USAA price protection certificate for 2010 Element TRIM (NYC region): 4WD 5dr Auto EX to see certified dealer - CLEARANCE pricing on remaining inventory. So I went to the closest Honda inventory in my NYC region and found the sticker price as follows:
2010 ELEMENT 5DR 4WD EX (NYC region)
MSRP: $ 23,885.00
Full Tank of Fuel: N/C
XM Satellite Radio
Includes free activation
3 mos. Free service
Destination & Handling: 780.00
Total Vehicle: $ 24,655.00
The clearance pricing is basically - give me your price...so I would like to negotiate an OTD price of $21,000 (I would like the selling price slightly over dealer invoice price including the documentation fee AND subtract the dealer cash, if any).
I also found out that this particular make/model is involved in the shift lever recall notification (in the VIN Range/Dates of Manufacture). Has anyone had any experience with the shift lever or had it fixed by Honda?
The pricing seems almost the same for a 2010 or 2011, perhaps 500-700 increase. Any insights would greatly be appreciated.
Thank you for your attention.