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Honda Element, Wagon, SUV
#292 of 750 Re: Help Me!!!!too!!!![Sylvia] [rallyegirl]
Jan 04, 2005 (10:55 am)
Your best weapon is patience. You might want to wait until the 2005 Elements are in and you see people posting their experiences/prices here.
Don't forget to read "Confessions of a Car Salesman" (found on this website) if you are planning on going to a dealership. If you give it some more time, you can get Edmunds TMV as a basis for your negotiating. If you wait long enough, you should be able to see the carsdirect prices for new Elements, too. That's usually a very reasonable price.
Evaluate your current car with Edmunds and Kelly Blue Book (kbb.com), but don't expect to get that amount. You might want to try a CarMax, if there is one in your area, for a free appraisal, good for a week, on your car. You don't need to buy from them to sell to them, although you'll miss a tax break on your new car.
There's a lot of advice on Edmunds.com for buying a car. The more you learn about it the better.
EDIT: I wanted to add that there are places to buy genuine Honda accessories online. The dealer markups and high installation costs will make the options you want very expensive. Don't know if it's correct to post the website I use here, though, so I'll wait and see what a moderator has to say about it.
Many accessories are easy to install. For example: I bought wheel locks, mud guards, and the tray liner for my Odyssey - the dealer wanted to charge a LOT for installation of these things that litterally took just a few minutes. I mean, come on! Installation for the tray? It just drops in! Some are not so easy (like steps), but if you can handle it then you can save quite a bit.
#293 of 750 Re: Help Me!!!!too!!!![Sylvia] [rallyegirl] [kirstie_h]
Jan 05, 2005 (3:45 pm)
Thanks for the quick reply, I live in the Youngstown Ohio area, I have several dealerships near me, The Honda Store in Boardman ( just about next door, I could walk!also I lease a 2004 Civic there for my daughter) There is Shenengo Honda in the New Castle Pa area and Apostolakis in Cortland, Ohio. Youngstown is considered a depressed area, I thought I could get a great price. I have my financing already, in essence I will be paying cash. Does this help or hurt me? My trade in is only worth about 400 dollars, I told you it was old!! I have a friend who worked out a deal at Shenengo Honda, she got a great price and they agreed to give her free oil changes! I would appreciate all the help I can get!! Thanks!!
Jan 06, 2005 (2:10 am)
I bought an 05 ex awd with auto last tonight. I paid the invoice price of
$20584 + $300 for a total of $20884 and the dealer is installing the
following Honda accessories.at no extra charge............
1. Rocker Panel Trim
2. Fog Lamps
3. All Seasom Mats
4. Rear Cargo Tray
5. Armrest with Storage
6. Front Hood Deflector
7. Honda Security System
8. Rear Bumper Guard
9. Gas Cap Lock
10. Mud Flaps
11. Grey Leather Steering wheel cover
Dealer is charging $99 Doc Fee and including Black Pin Striping.
Color is the new red. Do you think I got a good deal ???
Jan 06, 2005 (3:11 am)
sounds great to me! Where are you located. I am in Mpls MN and plan to purchase soon.
Jan 06, 2005 (6:18 am)
That doesn't sound like a good deal... it sounds like a GREAT deal! That red color is really nice, and it sounds like you got some good extras and a very reasonable doc fee.
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#297 of 750 Re: new 05 [wildbill]
Jan 06, 2005 (2:01 pm)
I live in MPLS, MN too. I know of a good place to buy one!
#298 of 750 Re: New 05 [theking]
Jan 06, 2005 (5:30 pm)
Actually that sounds too good to believe. I hope that dealer honors the price since some of those accessories are expensive to install.
That deal would lose a lot of money for the dealer and it's a 2005. not a leftover '04.
#299 of 750 Re: New 05 [isellhondas]
Jan 06, 2005 (6:08 pm)
I agree, this sounds too good to be true. Does your dad own the dealership? Well good for you if you get that price, I have hope then that I can get a good deal.
#300 of 750 Going today to see my Baby E
Jan 08, 2005 (8:08 am)
The dealership just called and my Rallye Red is in.....Oh Lord, can I contain myself? I've been driving a 1990 Sillouette minivan forever and I have thanked God everyday for the convenience, fiberglass, no rust and most of all I can haul just about anything, lost my husband in a terrible tragedy and concentrated on raising my daughter,(you know sacrifices a Mother makes) I got her into a beautiful red ex civic with all the extras and NOW ITS MY TURN!!!!! Never got excited about any of the cars on the road until one day walking the dog and this BOX drives by...."what the heck was that?" I didn't like it then but what did I know???????? Wish me luck I'm going to take a valium and put my game face on...how will I contain myself when I see my EEEEEEEE???? I have been waiting since last June....wasn't satisfied with the prices on the 04's and when I heard the whispering that Red was coming, well I couldn't settle for black, I go for drama and the orange was awesome but I'm not an orange kind of person, one of my coworkers has the orange and I can't wait to park my red with black panels next to hers, I wonder if they will become friends? Don't mind my rambling, I can't believe that FINALLY, I will be an owner, I made my mind up that a couple hundred dollars will not break me....does it sound crazy to have a bottom line of 22,000.00 total with fogs and steps? I can't wait to be a true element owner of the elementownersclub!!
#301 of 750 Re: Going today to see my Baby E [rallyegirl]
Jan 10, 2005 (8:34 am)
According to the hondanews.com website, the list price is 20,325 for EX automatic. Even with '04's on the lot, you should be able to do better than that.
According to the website where I buy Honda accessories:
- 330 for the side steps
- 242 fog light kit
Those prices are not for 2005 though, and doesn't include installation. Still, add six hundred and lets say it's an even 21,500 maximum, including destination charge. I have no doubt you should be able to go under 20500, and if you play your cards right, a lot less than that, even. Subtract your trade in, add taxes and so forth, I think 22K should be fine... of course, I'm not a dealer and I don't know what they are charging.
Your best bet at this point is to call several dealers with your selection. Don't let them talk you into something else (they'd rather sell you one they have or have already ordered than order a new one). Get the prices (including installation and so forth for your accessories), and definitely call several places as well as looking for online prices.
I have to tell you, I have an Odyssey and an Element, and while the Ody has a lot more going for it for creature comforts, I enjoy the Element a lot more. I was just like you - I didn't like it at first but it grew on me. That's one way to know you'll like it for a long time... things that seem great right off the bat tend to lose their quality over time (look at the PT Cruiser now... not such a big deal, afterall). Things that you grow to like tend to stay that way for a long time.
And just like you, I'm WAAYYY outside the demographic for this car! That red color looks VERY cool. I'm excited for you and I don't even have my tags yet!
I have to keep saying this; read "Confessions of a Car Salesman" available on Edmunds website, and definitely shop around online to get a good idea of what you want (unfortunately some places, like carsdirect, don't give you the accessories as options), and definitely call around.
You will be your own worst enemy if you are too excited to think clearly when you buy the car.