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Chrysler Voyager/Dodge Caravan Prices Paid and Buying Experience 2003-2007

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Re: EP Plus is not the dealers bottom line! [vtechokie] by salesman3
Sep 02, 2005 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: vtechokie (Jul 30, 2005 10:28 am)

EP PRICE IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
NO DEALERSHIP WOULD SELL STOW AND GO CCARAVANS FOR LESS THAN THAT SINCE DC DID NOT BULD ENOUGH FOR DEALERS
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EP FOR SERVICE CONTRATCS
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Re: EP Plus is not the dealers bottom line! [vtechokie] by hansienna
Sep 02, 2005 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: vtechokie (Jul 30, 2005 10:28 am)

Congratulations on your good purchase. Frankly, I believe your numbers more than an unknown salesman at an unknown location.
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Re: EP Plus is not the dealers bottom line! [salesman3] by dennisctc
Sep 07, 2005 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: salesman3 (Sep 02, 2005 10:50 am)

Maybe this is a Detroit thing, but I was at dealership getting oil change last week and saw EP Plus on all the vehicles on showroom floor. What's this???
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Re: EP Plus posted on all vehicles [dennisctc] by hansienna
Sep 07, 2005 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 07, 2005 12:08 pm)

This appears to be a dealership that wants to clear out all new inventory.
      Sadly, many DaimlerChrysler dealers have sold out of new 2005 DC minivans.
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I paid $15,700 for New 2005 T&C by snorkelman
Oct 10, 2005 (5:54 am)
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Yesterday I bought a new 2005 T&C and paid $15,700 (yes it was the base model). I’m confident that I got a good deal.
 
Here in Florida I saw an ad in the paper showing that they were selling the base model '05 T&C for $15,990 plus tax tags and dealer fee of $398.
 
I figured that they would jack up the price when I showed up, but they didn't. I ended up getting anouther $250 off that price by the following method:
 
I brought in an ad from a competitor showing '05 caravans for $11,999 and the '05 Grand Caravan for $15,999.
 
So I argued as follows:
 
 Dodge GC costs $2,000 more, so Chrysler should be cheaper
 
 4 wheel ABS brakes std on GC (only optional with T&C)
 
 GC has steering wheel mounted controls std & not avail on T&C
 
 GC has theatre style seating std, & not avail on T&C
 
 GC has 3rd row Split bench seat std & not avail on T&C
 
 GC is longer (more space -11.2 inches)
 
The sales manager kept trying to tell me that it was apples and oranges because the Caravan was only a 4 cylinder, but i was careful to tell him that I knew that and I was only drawing a comparison between the GC and the T&C.
 
As for one of the posters above who said that there are a lot of differences between the GC and T&C, that is wrong. The above differences are the only pros that I could find that the GC has over the T&C. I also found several options that the T&C has that the GC does not have, such as the key with bottons to unlock and lock the doors.
 
Keep in mind these are only the base models.
 
Hope my research can help others in future negotiations.
 
By the way, the price i paid was over $1000 less than the Employee pricing that everyone was pushing last month.
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Re: I paid $15,700 for New 2005 T&C [snorkelman] by fish8
Oct 10, 2005 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: snorkelman (Oct 10, 2005 5:54 am)

I don't understand the following statement: " Dodge GC costs $2,000 more, so Chrysler should be cheaper". Why should the Chrysler be cheaper? Chrysler is the higher of the 2 brands.
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Re: I paid $15,700 for New 2005 T&C [fish8] by snorkelman
Oct 10, 2005 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: fish8 (Oct 10, 2005 6:02 am)

FYI the invoice and MSRP prices both range from $1000-$2000 more for the comparable DGC than the T&C. I agree that the T&C is better (that is what i bought it) but i used that as part of my negotiations.
 
I argued that they should sell me the T&C cheaper than the price that they were advertising because i found a DGC for the same price, and the regular MSRP for the DGC is more than the T&C. Thus, if i can get a DGC for the same price, they must be asking too much.
 
regardless, i only got an additional $250 off, so who knows which part of the argument worked, but i haven't found anyone who came close to the deal that I got yet.
 
Hopefully there are others out there who got this good of a deal (or even better).
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Re: I paid $15,700 for New 2005 T&C [snorkelman] by dennisctc
Oct 10, 2005 (3:03 pm)
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Replying to: snorkelman (Oct 10, 2005 5:54 am)

EVERYONE knows that you can't get more than a few thousand off a brand new DCX minivan!! Just ask socalawd!!! He knows, he said so!!!
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Re: I paid $15,700 for New 2005 T&C [dennisctc] by socalawd
Oct 19, 2005 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: dennisctc (Oct 10, 2005 3:03 pm)

EVERYONE knows that you can't get more than a few thousand off a brand new DCX minivan!! Just ask socalawd!!! He knows, he said so!!!
 
Not what I said but that never stopped ya before!! You can get 3 grand off a Ody if you know how. Some people just can't negotiate!! Must be a different skill then changing what someone says!!
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Re: I paid $15,700 for New 2005 T&C [socalawd] by dennisctc
Oct 20, 2005 (3:41 am)
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Replying to: socalawd (Oct 19, 2005 8:05 pm)

EVERYONE knows that you can't get more than a few thousand off a brand new DCX minivan!! Just ask socalawd!!! He knows, he said so!!!
  
Not what I said but that never stopped ya before!! You can get 3 grand off a Ody if you know how. Some people just can't negotiate!! Must be a different skill then changing what someone says!!
 
You can also be charged mark up still on Ody, but can't remember ever, anyone paying over sticker for DCX van. If you go to the Dodge site right now, you can get $5500 off without any negotiation. Then probably negotiate another $2k off with dealer - as seen in previous post here where people are getting below EP pricing. Hmmm just because you accused someone of changing what you say, doesn't make it true. Didn't you once say no one is doing better than EP?? That the price dif is only $1500?
 
One thing is for certain....One can get $5500 for sure today on a Dodge. It's in black and white from Dodge, go to their webpage and build one. Are there any incentives for Honda? From that starting point, it's all up to negotiating skills and market conditions in everyone's specific location. Beyond that, it's your rosey scenario vs. mine.

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