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| Wow. Now I understand why the "no-haggle" dealerships are increasing in number. Personally I enjoy negotiating for a car, but when buyers have experiences like this, it shows the benefit of the no-haggle method. I don't think you can get the absolute best deal at one of these places, but if it saves grief as described above, maybe it's worth paying a little more for a stress-free buying experience. I only ran into a car salesperson like that once in my life, when I was with a friend who was shopping for a '79 Chevette. The salesperson was loud and insulting. Fortunately, the sales manager intervened and apologized for her behavior. But my friend went to another dealership anyway. | |
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I called MazdaUSA this morning and the CSR said that he documented the incident and will pass it on to their board. Then I called Sansone. I told the operator that I want to talk to their Customer Service. He transfered me to a senior sales staff. I got the feeling that there is no department to file my complain with the dealership. Anyway, I told him that I want my information destroyed and explain the situation to him. He said that he will talk to his manager. He also asked if he can try to work out a deal, similar to the one advertised, for us. I said no. Sounds tempting but I would be a fool to let them do it to me a third time. I do not expect anything to happen. I went back to the same dealership on Saturday because I read the Confessions of a Car Salesman and thought that the salesperson must be under a lot of stress to push the sale. So I felt that his attitude was excusable. |
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Tj Rules on buying a car.... 1. Determine your NEEDS, not wants... (Example;Do you REALLY need FWD or a moon roof?) 2. How much money can you take out of your income.. Don't forget yearly plates and insurance.. Look at daily costs/maintenance. Just because the car has a low price doesn't mean it is affordable. This is a joint DW/DH decision both must agree.. 3. Go to Edmunds and research your vehicles. Use Edmunds to find the options. Dealers will not disclose the options. They want to sell you a "Lot Queen" with no options.... They will also "forget" to mention factory rebates. (Dealer pockets rebate) 4. Go to the dealer "armed" with Edmunds info and prices. Stick to your prices(know how much you can go up before you start)... 5. NEVER trust a dealer's word. GET IT IN WRITTING. Never ASSUME what the dealer said... 6. Dealers don't give a damn about customer relations. (How many cars a year are you going to buy?) 7. Don't get emotional when dealing(walk out if it gets intense). Never chit chat with the salesman. He is probing for your weaknesses. (Never take the kids of any age.. Keep your focus on the deal not chit chat.. Don't discuss issues with DW/DH in salesman's presence. Most dealer offices are bugged.. Sit in the car.) 8. Not a good idea to use dealer financing, but that is up to your judgement. Just beware... 9. Think over (24hrs)a deal before you sign... Ignore "must sign" today deals... 10. Trade ins are dicey. Beware...(know what your trade in is worth locally.) 11. Take a shower when you get home to wash off the Dealer Scum, you will feel better.. I would add: Any attempt at intimidation or signs of disrespect, RUN, not walk to nearest exit!!! Plus NEVER, NEVER, NEVER give your car keys to the salesman to check your trade in!!! (The hostage ploy is an old trick. Once a salesman "lost" my keys. I saw them on the manager's desk. He had "gone" to lunch. I kicked in the door and got my keys and left after a few choice words.. never heard anything about it. (Don't mess with a Marine!)) Assume the worst about salesmen and you will be right most of the time.... It is not Mazda, it is ALL of them. Learned the Hard Way.... Tj |
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| How much has the 2004 price increased over 2003? Are the rear discs the reason? Or just a general hike? Where can one get this info? | |
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funny, I've always said something similar. "Assume the worst about customers and you will be right most of the time.... It is not Mazda buyers, it is ALL of them." |
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| You can get the prices right here. Go to the "New Cars" tab and it will lead you in a few clicks to the MPV. You can select both 2003 and 2004 models and see the price difference, not only for MSRP but also for "true market value" (TMV), which gives you some idea of actual prices in your area including any incentives. | |
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Better hurry - those '03 prices will probably roll off the new car pages soon. Steve, Host |
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Yeah, I agree. It is a dog eat dog world out there. Personally, anyone that treats me with respect, I treat them with respect. If I get bad vibes about a salesmen, I ask for another one. Bad Vibes: 1. Silly jokes. 2. Meaningless Chit Chat. 3. "I am doing you a favor" attitude.. 4. Probing for personal information. 5. Lack of knowledge about car... 6. Pretense that salesman will "use" his influence with the dealer to get me a "special" deal... Maybe someday Wallymart will get into the business.. Tj |
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Not leaving Mazda out of consideration had us on the local Mazda lot today after spending three weeks solid with Sienna's, Odyssey's. The rebate for the '03 is $2500 and the rebate for the '04 is $1500. As far as MSRP pricing the '04 isn't much more than the '03. The new subtle changes are nice and the rear disc brake option is excellent. Problem is very little availability, same as the Sienna. So here is the quick deal without working them. MPV ES loaded (it was in the local car show last weekend) MSRP $29870. About the only option it didn't have is the RES (DVD) system. I'm trying to get past the smaller size and lower HP from the V6. Gas mileage is lower, but not by much but with the reduced HP you'd think it would be better. Thanks for the buying tips, it really helps putting things in order of importance. Need versus wants have always caused indecision with us because when spending this much money you should at least have some enjoyment as well as reliability. If it were merely transportation I'd buy the cheapest new car and drive it til the wheels fell off. Dano |
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>>> If it were merely transportation I'd buy the cheapest new car and drive it til the wheels fell off. <<< I suggest you take a look at KIA Spectra forum. It is one of cheapest new car with tons of problems. |
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