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#405 of 536 2000 MPV vs. 2000 Toyota Sienna
Mar 14, 2006 (9:42 pm)
I have been debating which to purchase.
2000 Mazda MPV, 4 door, ES, Leather - 102,000 for $6900
2000 Toyota Sienna, 4 door, CE, Velour - 50,000 for $10,880
I have read that the main problems with the MPV is the horse power, hard shifting and road noise.
The Toyota is plagued with --- well, not much.
Are the MPV issues worth the $4000 difference?
Thanks in advance - -
#406 of 536 Re: 2000 MPV vs. 2000 Toyota Sienna [jade_dane]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Mar 15, 2006 (3:50 am)
IMO, just the mileage difference would be worth $4K.. Throw the Mazda vs. Toyota thing in there, and the Sienna wins hands down... even with the lower trim level..
102K vs. 50K? No contest..
#407 of 536 Re: 2000 MPV vs. 2000 Toyota Sienna [kyfdx]
Mar 15, 2006 (4:21 am)
The '00 MPV had a 2.5L V6 which produced somewhere in the neighborhood of 160hp or so. '02+ gets the 3.0L V6 with 200hp.
Mileage is one thing. Which do you feel more comfortable in? Have you driven both in similar drives?
#408 of 536 Re: 2003-05 MVP Prices - Am I insane? [sparkert]
Mar 15, 2006 (5:34 am)
he states he can get us a price about 3000 lower...He want $900,plus 1-300 for auction fees.
He probably means he can get it for $3,000 less...assuming you are a horrible negotiator and know nothing about buying cars. There is a low demand for MPV's...that is why they have high discounts/rebates.
I would save my money and pass on the broker. Read these boards on Edmunds (MPV prices paid, Purchasing Strategies etc) Find a van you like and write back here...we'll help you out on the price. You should be able to get rock bottom price on a MPV whether you use a broker or not. I would be cautious as well about buying a vehicle at auction.
#409 of 536 Re: 2000 MPV vs. 2000 Toyota Sienna [kyfdx]
Mar 15, 2006 (5:41 am)
Agree with kyfdx, jade. If you have narrowed it down between these two vans, I would take the 50k Sienna. The 100k mile marker is usually the one where parts "can" start to wear out.
#410 of 536 Re: 2003-05 MVP Prices - Am I insane? [sparkert]
Mar 16, 2006 (5:21 pm)
Also agree that broker is not worth it in the particular case of MPV.
Check out Mazda USA website. You can search for the new car dealer inventory in your area (and you can specify 2005 model!). Then contact them over the web or fax.
FYI, I got my leftover '04 MPV ES in Jan of '05 for over $8K under MSRP with no stress in negotiations.
#411 of 536 Re: 2000 MPV vs. 2000 Toyota Sienna [jade_dane]
Mar 21, 2006 (12:54 pm)
I own a 2000 MPV ES 4-door Leather. I bought it brand new in Oct 1999. ( it has 82k right now)I have had nothing but problems with it. I'd like to be clear that I am a soccer mom who takes excellent care of her vehicle. Every oil change on time at the dealer. Every recommended maintenance from the manual done on time at the dealer. It looks like new. It runs like something else. I needed a new transmission at 18k. Then my front suspension Rod snapped at 66K. My power windows went out at 65K. New oil pan at 75K. I needed new plugs and wires at 51K. 2 years later, my car needs them AGAIN. At this very moment, my car is at the dealer with a cracked radiator, leaking water pump, leaking wide pipe, all which have to be replaced. That is in addition to the new plugs and wires. Total bill ready for me this afternoon...$2700. That doesn't include the regular maintenance I am on my 3rd set of brakes and tires. Buy the Toyota!!!!!
#412 of 536 Re: DealerCash\Marketing Incentives 2005 MPV-ES [jmacdonald1]
Mar 22, 2006 (5:46 am)
Mazda stopped posting them at the end of February. At that time they were $3000 + $1000 for financing through MAC. Around here (Louisville, Ky) two of the three dealers have offered $8000 off MSRP as well. The MPV seems to be a great value. I am guessing it won't be to long before the '06 go $7 to $8k off MSRP as it is the last model year for the MPV in the US. Mazda Knoxville already has them at 6.5k off. My only hesitation with the MPV is the recent poor rating in side impact crash testing.
#413 of 536 jmacdonald1, Poor side impact crash test results
Mar 28, 2006 (4:04 pm)
While the lack of airbags for 2nd and 3rd rows is certainly regrettable, it's not as much of a problem as it seems.
1) NHTSA gave MPV 5 stars.
2) Looking closely at the IIHS results for side impact crash testing, where MPV got POOR rating for side impact, they tested LX model without front seat side airbags. That front seat was the one that got poor results, the 2nd row actually got a G,G,A for head,torso, pelvis respectively. Had they tested a model with 1st row side airbags, the overall results would've been much better, IMHO.
#414 of 536 2005 lx plus
Apr 01, 2006 (4:14 am)
Just purchased the MPV and wanted to say thanks to all the informative postings.
Purchased a left over 2005 MPV LX Plus with moonroof, which I found on the Mazdausa inventory search. The MSRP was $27,590 and paid $19,125 with Mazda finance to get full rebate. Negotiated over the phone but still the dealer wanted to do one more round of negotiations when I went in to sign the paperwork. Here are some tips.
Negotiate price of vehicle first, all your comparative pricing is on the web.
Next negotiate final "out the door price". This includes all fees such as tax, title, documentation fees and anything else the dealer can dream up.
Next get it in writing, have it e-mail/fax. I didn't have this so when I went in they wanted to negotiate again, after much time, they got an additional $250 from a starting point of $1,100 which they claim was a misunderstanding regarding the "out the door price" and the fees that it included. Hope this helps and good luck to all. Final word, you can't always get the bottom line price but you can try.