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#250 of 536 My buying experience
Jul 28, 2004 (6:51 am)
My wife picked up our new 2004 MPV LX in
Titanium Gray w/ LX +, 4 Seasons/Towing and Power
Doors. Purchased from IRA Mazda in Danvers, MA.
This is our second (and last) car we will purchase
from them. Our first car from them was a 2000
Protege LX. It was painless the first time and
that was why we went back to them.
Paid: $18954 after $3500 rebate
IRA had this car advertised on their website with a
Dealer Invoice of $18954. Other cars with LESS
equipment had higher prices. The haggled with us
for over 2 hours one night because they wouldn't
give us what we wanted for our trade-in.
After calling all of the other Mazda Dealers in
Boston and Southern NH area, we paid cash for the
car at IRA. We'd have to pay at least $1500 more
from any other dealer for the same car.
We are happy with our new MPV so far, but we will
stay away from IRA Mazda.
Jul 28, 2004 (7:21 am)
Did you wind up trading in your car with them then?
#252 of 536 Also took the plunge!
Jul 28, 2004 (9:57 pm)
Hi everyone, Rampage80 here (Steve M, Mpls, MN).
I'm a newby to this board but not to Mazda's. I do owe you all a big "thank you" for the incredible wealth of information and tips I absorbed here weeks before deciding to purchase a new MPV on July 21. I also love the care and maintenance forums!
Located the model I wanted on the Mazda corporate web site after the local dealer inventory appeared based on my zip code, and also made some preliminary e-mail's and received several quotes from local dealers. Only one local dealer had a razor blue without the power sliding doors, which I did not want.
Purchased a 2004 Razor Blue right off the lot (was not a loss leader or special) with LX Plus, 4 seasons, Auto-dim mirror, Roof rack, Spoiler, rear step guard and cargo organizer for $19,000 even before tax and license ($3,500 rebate). MSRP was $25,988.
Decided to sell much loved and "still running smoothly" 1990 Maroon Mazda Protege myself locally instead of trading.
Dealt with Luther Brookdale Mazda here in Mpls and had a decent experience there (dare I say pleasant, for a dealer)! New car sales manager was new there and said he was committed to making his dealership the best in town (first day possibly) and turned out we graduated from same college, NDSU out of Fargo, N.D. After dealing with a young but pleasant sales guy there, when it came time to haggle, in to the manager's office I went and got the proverbial "what's it gonna take to get you to buy this vehicle TODAY"!
I gave him my bottom price and demanded the spoiler, rear step guard and cargo organizer, and after threatening to walk several times, he finally agreed. The tips and "things to watch for" learned here beforehand were invaluable, by the way.
I did buy the extended warranty (this dealership is huge in this town with multiple makes) but am having second thoughts after reading all the horror stories in the "extended warranty" forum, although these guys use a company called "Protective" in all their local dealerships, and evidently this company has a pretty solid reputation from what I've learned.
That's my story, only 50 miles on the MPV so far. Does have a squeak when I close the front driver's or passenger door, but I'll get that taken care of when I go back in for the spoiler, etc.
- Steve M.
#253 of 536 Re: Also took the plunge! [rampage80]
Jul 29, 2004 (9:54 am)
Congrats on your new buy rampage. I also bought a new(9 miles) Mazda MPV LX (in Cosmic Sand) with a $26,000 MSRP. With "only" the $3,ooo in rebate as of July 1st... I got a pretty good deal at $20,600.Edmunds TMV for the LX I bought is currently $20,900(even with the additional $500 in rebate)So, I'm wondering how you got $1,000 more off that(the extra $500 in rebate included)? That's practically giving the car away.Good for you! I had an earlier post about the extended warranty as well. Would you be willing to discuss how much your extended warranty went for? Thanks.
#254 of 536 Re: Also took the plunge! [jipster]
Jul 29, 2004 (5:51 pm)
Congrats on your new MPV LX as well! I really liked the cosmic sand color too (also the metallic sage green), ultimately went with the blue as they seemed to be disappearing the quickest off the lot and wife liked the color. Frankly I liked all the colors offered this year other than white or black (too hard to keep clean). Sounds like you got a good deal too!
To be honest, I didn't pay that much attention to the rebates - more to the price the other local dealers were advertising, which was $6000 off retail for 2004 MPV LX as of July 7 (which including Mazda rebates of various flavors). So I knew I could get one for $20k with the options I wanted without haggling; the trick was figuring out how low below 20k I thought the dealer would go without tossing me out of his office! One thing is for sure - THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO VISIT ANOTHER DEALER (I threatened to several times and I was just being honest)! I was seriously there only for a test drive and intended to visit at least one other local dealer, but in the back of my mind knew if I could get my price I was ready to sign on the dotted line since my wife liked the blue and it had the options I wanted. I had seen a low price on this forum for a 2003 model for about 18,500, so I figured with the options already on the car, if I could get the spoiler, organizer and a few other small extras in addition, I'd ask for 19 even, and call the deal done. Dealer came down from 19,750 to 19,500 to 19,250 and then finally agreed to 19 with the extra options - he did mention he had a $250 rebate to use which he simply added to our down payment.
As regards extended warranty, they did not pressure me at all, but I was scarred by having to replace a tranny in my Protege ($1,800 about 5 years ago), so decided to opt for it (figuring I could always back out). I simply added it the remainder of the balance and financed it - $1,100 to go from factory 4 yr/50,000 to 7 year/75,000 (we average only 7,500 miles a year so mileage wasn't a big issue). I tend to be of the "drive 'em till they drop" school instead of the "trade every 4 years" (or I would have never purchased the extended warranty), so seemed to make sense at the time. I do kind of wish I had explored in more detail the Mazda factory extended plan, but I did hear that wasn't as good a deal - I think 6/60,000 or something like that.
Good luck with your new MPV Jipster!
Jul 30, 2004 (5:44 am)
No. My father-in-law bought it from us for the amount we
wanted for trade-in. This way he gets a good car and we get our
van for the price we wanted.
Jul 30, 2004 (7:19 am)
Dealers make way more money on their used car division so you managed to avoid that whole scene (after the two hours of haggling anyway <g>).
Enjoy the ride,
#257 of 536 Re: Also took the plunge! [rampage80]
Jul 30, 2004 (1:17 pm)
Thanks for the info Rampage. My wife and I also considered the Razor Blue and Nordic Green...which are also pretty sharp.Craig & Landreth Mazda had a good selection(10). They were advertising the LX here in Louisville,Ky for about $5,000 off sticker.
I hadn't intended to buy as well. So,when my wife said she really liked the car, I had the invoice numbers and everything with me. We negotiated till the sales manager started to turn green.So,using that as a guide we decided to buy.We plan on keeping this car for at least 7 or 8 years. We really enjoy the distinctive looks of the MPV and the way it drives and handles. Had almost gone with the Toyota Sienna(am glad now we didn't) for $6,000 more, but dealer experience left us cold.Will be taking a trip to the Smokey Mountains in a month or so...will get back and let everyone know how the MPV did.
#258 of 536 Re: Also took the plunge! [jipster]
Jul 30, 2004 (9:28 pm)
Sounds good Jipster!
The dealer I was at was pretty large - they must have had 25 MPV's sitting on the lot - I was a bit overwhelmed at first, but was also pretty familiar with their inventory from looking at their web site inventory page. I'd say they had 3 blues, 3 greens, about 10 grays and silver metallic, 4 cosmic sand, maybe 2 white and 2 black.
Sales guy told me that Mazda makes smaller numbers of vehicles when trying out a "new" color like razor blue, since they're not sure if the color will be a "hit" or not with the car buying public. They order more of the tried and true colors.
Also told me the engine is made in a Ford plant here in the USA (basically a Ford Duratec V6 also used in Escape I believe) under tighter Mazda spec, then shipped to Hiroshima and installed in Japan, where the body is made, then vehicle shipped to US dealers. I read somewhere that the 5 speed auto transmission is made by Jaguar (thus me buying the extended warranty)!
Looking forward to your trip report!
#259 of 536 2004 LX MPV Good Price?
Aug 10, 2004 (7:35 pm)
From John Kennedy Mazda Phil, PA
Is this a good deal.
2004 MPV LX
4 Seasons Package
$20,600 plus tax and tags.....
Could a Toyota or Honda compete with the price?