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Mazda MPV, Van
#205 of 536 our buying numbers
May 04, 2004 (9:24 pm)
Just took our Titanium Gray LX 2004 home last night. MSRP was $25,895 and included LX Plus, All Sport, roof rack, and Side air bags and Traction Control. The dealer price was $23,686 which was $300 below invoice. In addition, there was a $3500 rebate. The $500 MAC is gone, but the $2500 rebate has been kicked up an extra grand as of last Saturday. Net price was $20,186. With TTL it was $22,402. Bought from Oak Tree Mazda in San Jose. Also bought a Mazda 6 from them last August. Absolutely no hassle. General Manager said $300 below and I took it. The van was not on the lot but on a sister-dealer's lot. Financed at 4.99%. Terrific dealership to buy from. Selling a 2000 GMC Safari and the driving experience is night and day. Love the MPV. We are planning a trip to Reno or Tahoe next month to break it in.
#206 of 536 It's a great deal
May 05, 2004 (11:04 am)
The net price you paid was such great deal that you still paid $200 less than using the S-plan. Congradulations.
#207 of 536 The END of the MPV?
May 11, 2004 (6:45 pm)
If the MPV will end its run in MY 2004 (at least in the U.S.), what do you all think that means for resale values and parts/service availability?
We are considering buying an LX with a few options in a month or two, but are concerned about whether we wouldn't be better off buying a base Odyssey for about $3000 more.
If we keep the Mazda for a long time might it be hard to get serviced? If we want out in a few years will it be impossible to sell?
The $3500 rebate Mazda is offering does make it attractive, but the '04 Odyssey is also selling cheaper since they have a new and improved version coming in the fall. (My sister just picked up and EX-L for $26K.)
May 11, 2004 (8:53 pm)
All I know is what I read over in Mazda MX-Flexa / Mazda4. I guess it could become an orphan in the same sense that a '98 Odyssey is, and that may affect resale, but I doubt that you'll have any problems getting it serviced.
Used car resales are in the tank. Ok, maybe not used Odysseys, but even those are starting to feel pressure from the new '05 Odyssey.
#209 of 536 Re: The END of the MPV? [saabermom #207]
May 12, 2004 (7:55 am)
a base mpv lx costs $18K, which is about $4k less than the odyssey lx that has no CD player and remote keyless entry. But it cost a few hundreds to get the privacy glass on the mpv.
As long as Mazda is still doing business in US, they have to service the mpv even though they might not selling it.
May 12, 2004 (8:42 am)
There's no law that says Mazda has to service a discontinued model (I've looked for links before, and I'd love to see otherwise). Be stupid not to, but manufacturers drop support for discontinued products all the time. Some say support for existing products is non-existent
#211 of 536 Service for discontinued
May 12, 2004 (10:32 am)
I thought it was a federal law or such that a company had to supply parts for items up to 7 years after they were discontinued.
#212 of 536 Re: [steve_ #210]
May 12, 2004 (10:55 am)
I guess you're referring to the post-warranty service is not guaranteed by Mazda. I can accept that. If my mechanic can service my mpv and cost less after the warranty period, so I'll go to my local mechanic. Steve, are you telling us that Mazda dealer can refuse owners of Mazda 323, 626, 929, Millenia, and protege for services just because all these models had already be discontinued?
I heard that Oldsmobile owners may take their cars to a GM service department for service.
No wonder the Camry and Accord can sell themselves, because the model/name had been out there for decades without being discontinued.
I can understand why Microsoft discontinued supporting Windows 3.1, 95, because there isn't much systems out there run these OS, therefore not much money to make from support it.
#213 of 536 Re: The END of the MPV? [kinko #209]
May 12, 2004 (12:20 pm)
I compared Edmunds trade in/private party #s for Base 2002 MPVs and Odys:
MPV $11,000 Trade in, $12,000 Private Party
ODY $17,500 Trade in, $19,000 Private Party
Kind of wipes out that $4000 initial spread...
Now, whatever we buy we plan on keeping for 7-10 years, so resale values are less important for us. But, you never know, and that is a HUGE difference (and I suspect that MPV values will drop another notch due to the production/distribution halt).
#214 of 536 Service for discontinued
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
May 12, 2004 (12:38 pm)
I haven't searched lately, but I've never found the 7 year rule (or any federal/state law) that requires the manufacturer to perform warranty service or stock parts for a certain number of years.
Last time I searched, I couldn't even find any contractual info in bid requests from the feds with any similar kinds of requirements.
There was a similar thread over in Isuzu Trooper a few months back; here's a representative post:
troop2shos "Isuzu Trooper" Dec 15, 2003 9:22pm
I guess you guys are gonna make me go look again - if anyone has a clue, please speak up!