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#519 of 567 KIA Sedona
May 30, 2009 (9:37 pm)
As far as Kia's go, according to my research compared to Honda and Toyota. Kia is basically the same van. In my area we have a lot of older Kia's. I agree that before the turn of the century Kia may not have been the way to go.
BUT if you look at how long it took for Honda and Toyota to make a name compared to Kia, (getting ready to start their 16th year in America) then Kia is obviously on the way up and only going to get better. Kia's engineering building in korea has 8,000 engineers working on the next model. I do not know how much better they can get now but we will see. I find that compared to the honda and toyota Kia only lacks in two area's for 2009. No bluetooth available and only seats 7.
Once again BUT the Kia is safer, and if I am carrying my most precious cargo in the vehicle (my family and me) then I would want it protected.
Why are you people going to pay more for a van that is not as safe? For an extra passenger? Because honestly you can get devices that plug into your car for hands free phoning.
The old school yard mentality is put your money where your mouth is, well all I can say is Kia put their WARRANTY where their mouth is.....and it is standard. You do not have to pay extra. IF Honda and Toyota are "SUPERIOR" to Kia then why can't they warrant it that way.
Kia would be broke if they had to fix a lot of warranty items....obviously the product is reliable otherwise it would not be around.
P.S. Why don't you get your facts straight before you go bashing Kia, because Mercedes-Benz owns 10% of Kia. Mercedes invented the airbag and Kia's 8,000 engineers have only make it better.
Jun 09, 2009 (8:41 pm)
I bought a brand new 08 Sedona with 47 miles on it May 3, 2007 for 17,250 plus tax.
Unfortunately, it has been jump started 4 times since then, had a new battery installed, and has now been in the shop a second time for 13 days now while they try to figure out why the battery is being drained. The dealer is well-regarded by my many neighbors who have purchased vehicles from them, and they are very sympathetic and trying to be helpful, but sheesh. 480 miles, the van doesn't even have its license plates yet, and it's been in the shop 14 of the 35 days I've owned it.
I'm bitterly disappointed. I love driving it, and purchased it to camp in, and now I'm fearful that even if they fix that problem, there are going to be other electrical problems. I certainly am not getting any kind of new car buzz excitement from owning it, and I'm afraid to take it on any kind of extended trip; it's going to be a LONG time before I trust it enough to not fear getting stranded in it.
#521 of 567 Re: 08 deal [irritatrix]
Jun 09, 2009 (8:46 pm)
You should look into your state's lemon laws before this gets much further. You may qualify for a replacement.
#522 of 567 Re: 08 deal [kitagrl]
Jun 09, 2009 (8:58 pm)
Oh, trust me, I have. I'm halfway to qualifying for a good case, on both bases my state uses. CA requires
1) Reasonable number of attempts to repair problem - generally 4, but not necessarily, or
2) In the shop 30 days in the first 18 months of ownership - does not have to be for the same problem.
3) Also, the problem has to affect safety or usability of the vehicle (i.e., can't be for a minor problem like an interior light that they can't get to work or something of that nature).
#2 is why I'm not pushing them too hard. I really don't want the thing anymore. I've also read that in certain circumstances, a refund can be ordered even if the above are not met, and I may have my attorney friend look into that for me if they don't have it fixed by the end of the week.
#523 of 567 Re: 08 deal [irritatrix]
Jun 09, 2009 (9:17 pm)
Also forgot to mention it's an EX. Good deal for 17,250; I just wish I could drive it.
#524 of 567 Re: 08 deal [irritatrix]
Jun 10, 2009 (6:39 am)
Kia published a "Pit Stop" article (KT2007101501 - regarding 2006 And Later Sedona (VQ) Possible Battery Discharge Due to Improperly Installed Door Lock Key Switch). The text is as follows:
This Pitstop addresses a concern on some 2006 and later Sedona (VQ), which may exhibit a discharged battery due to excessive intermittent parasitic electrical draw. In some cases the door lock key switch located on the back of both the driverís and passenger's front door lock cylinders may not have been properly installed, may have come loose, or possibly was not reinstalled properly during a previous unrelated repair. As mentioned, this parasitic draw may be intermittent, as the switch by itself has no detent center position and is free to rotate (turn ON and OFF in either lock or unlock positions) if not attached properly to the door lock cylinder.
If a 2006 or later Sedona (VQ) has a discharged battery and a parasitic draw is present, first check the operation of the key switches using the GDS Scan Tool. If either key switch displays ON regardless of actual key position, this is the parasitic draw and the switch may not be fully installed. If the battery is discharged for no apparent reason, and no other symptoms exist, then an intermittent concern may exist. In this case please check both door lock key switches, assuring that the switches are properly installed.
I suggest that you print this out and show it to your dealer.
#525 of 567 Re: 08 deal [thehothit]
Jun 10, 2009 (8:57 am)
THANK YOU!!! I will print it now and take it over there!
#526 of 567 Re: 08 deal [irritatrix]
Jun 10, 2009 (7:41 pm)
I understand you are upset but obviously there is a problem with the vehicle and you feel like you have been ripped off. Fact of the matter is no matter how much we want as consumers or Kia as a manufacturer wants every vehicle to be "perfect" is completely unreasonable. People put cars together and we all know people are not perfect by any sense of the word. Mistakes can and will happen. Is this any reason to bash the company the dealer or the car...no. Is it grounds to be upset....yes. Lets sit back and think though. Other then the fact that the car has a battery problem you still love it you said so yourself. I truly hope the vehicle gets fixed for you and you buy into this company for life.
Again nothing is perfect, you are one of the unfortunates and it sucks but Kia is the most improved company in the past 10 years and just look at what is coming in the future. I hear within the next couple years the sedona will be redone.
2010 the sorento is getting a makeover....then probably the sportage.
I'll keep you updated. I have a very good friend in the kia world.
#527 of 567 Re: 08 deal [jskay]
Jun 10, 2009 (9:43 pm)
Now come on. Being frustrated at not having use of a new car for 14 straight days and 2 of the 5 weeks you've owned it is far from demanding the vehicle be "perfect." I've owned a number of cars in the last 40 years and not one has been "perfect," but not one has gotten off to this bad of a start - not even my ill-fated 1971 Saab 96, which was plagued with electrical problems from Day 1 and finally, mercifully, caught on fire and completely destroyed itself.
And nowhere did I say I felt "ripped off." I said I was "bitterly disappointed" - because I didn't buy a new vehicle to spend this much time in the shop, and I doubt you would like it any more than I do if it happened to you.
#528 of 567 2008 Clearance on Sedonas?
Jun 18, 2009 (8:02 pm)
I stopped by a local Kia dealer yesterday and they had two 2008 Sedonas for sale. These cars were on the lost about 2 months ago and then disappeared.
They told me that it was part of a program that Kia made them do. Apparently the cars were supposed to put in "loaner" program. They told me they just parked the cars in the back of another dealership for 45 days, and can now sell them.
THey were new (13 miles and 24 miles) and I be the first owner of record. The $27k LX model with power package and DVD was on sale for $18K+. They had a few other models with the same thing going on.
Has anyone encounter this? Any idea how much lower they will go?