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Re: deals [lavrishevo]
by mattandi
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Jan 03, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Dec 27, 2007 5:46 pm)
just curious
Where are you getting those numbers?
Are those number before or after incentives?
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Re: deals [mattandi]
by lavrishevo
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Jan 03, 2008 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: mattandi (Jan 03, 2008 9:03 am)
These are my opinions and just what I have noticed, after incentives before tax/tag/tittle. Of course as rebates change prices might be a little higher. I paid 19.2K before all taxes for my LX long wheel base with roof rack, no power doors or entertainment. I did not want leather in PR and don't trust the power doors on any van. They seem to break reliably. You can add a really nice entertainment system for a good deal less then what the dealer usually charges. I added HID Xenon headlights from e-bay for 150.00, they are a must. Some people pay as much as 1,600.00 for HID. Fools.
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Re: deals [lavrishevo]
by mattandi
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Jan 04, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Jan 03, 2008 2:32 pm)
Thanks. That helps. We are in no hurry. Will be in position to buy mid to late Jan. There are plenty of '07's available locally, so unless there is a run on them we should be ok on inventory. Just trying to get a good number in mind. Prefer to have number before any incentives and TTL and inclusive of any and all dealer fees.
We are interested in bells and whistles only if it is a stupid great deal.
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Pricing for 2007 EX w/ Power, Luxury, and Ent. packages
by egkor
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Jan 12, 2008 (8:23 pm)
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Hi,
Could anyone post what pricing you are getting for the 2007 Sedona EX with Power, Luxury, and Prem. Entertainment packages?
I am interested in this van. There are several in my area. The closest dealer to me will not go as low as I want them to.
The earlier posts show these vans to have sold for $7000 +/- off MSRP in the past. I'm not seeing that kind of pricing at this time in my area.
Right now there is 3k factory to dealer cash, plus another 1k from ???, so I can see 4k total off of invoice.
Also I'm concerned about the depreciation of this van. Even if the 2007 EX van with all the packages were to sell for around 24k-25k (off of a 32k MSRP), if I drive it off the lot and return 4 days later to trade it in, KBB, NADA and Edmunds all show a trade-in value of approx. 20k. So, a 4k to 5k loss right away it would appear.
Any help/info/insights appreciated!
-Gary K
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Re: Pricing for 2007 EX w/ Power, Luxury, and Ent. packages [egkor]
by lavrishevo
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Jan 13, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: egkor (Jan 12, 2008 8:23 pm)
Kia and Hyundai have not had the market share and reliability in the past for their resale value to be anywhere close to Honda / Toyota / Nissan. If you plan on selling soon and not keeping the van for a good while you may not want to go with Kia or Hyundai.
If you look at the 04 / 05 Sedona's there were pieces of crap, for the most part. It is going to be a few more years before their resale value will be up to par. But you can not beat the price and warranty if you plan on keeping the van. The 06+ are great vans.
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Re: Sedona 2005 EX [jazacmom]
by kcarson
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Jan 13, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: jazacmom (Apr 24, 2005 12:52 pm)
Don't be such a mooch!!!! This is an advertised vehicle where they are willing to lost a great deal of $ as it is to peak interest in hopes that the can bump you into a better equiped one with some profit. Im sure there is only one at this price - so if you like it buy it. You snooze you loose when it comes to ad cars.
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Re: Pricing for 2007 EX w/ Power, Luxury, and Ent. packages [egkor]
by typer_801
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Jan 14, 2008 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: egkor (Jan 12, 2008 8:23 pm)
The incentives on left over '07's aren't quite as good as they were on leftover 06's. Right now, there's a $2500 rebate and $1000 cash to buyers who own select non-Kia products. So max of $3500. Last year, there was $5000 total rebates available. So $1500 less.
I own an '06 and resale is MUCH worse than I expected. I know Kia hasn't historically had good resale, but I figured with the outstanding press, awards, and really competitive offering with value pricing the Sedona had, resale wouldn't have dropped so dramatically. I was wrong. It's definitely not an Odyssey (which I prefer), but for what I paid I thought it was a smart decision. I'm genuinely concerned now when I see 06 Sedona LX's retail priced at $13.9K at dealers, where you know there's room for negogiating down. I'd hate to think what private party sales would net, or trade-in would net. I'm not sure if owning an EX is a good thing or not, but at least it's not nearly as common....very few EX's in the classifieds. And with the resale concerns,I think I'm holding on to mine for a while... No reason not to, it's been trouble free for 18K miles, but really loyal to Honda and would like to eventually switch back.
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Re: Pricing for 2007 EX w/ Power, Luxury, and Ent. packages [typer_801]
by rachluvjun
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Jan 14, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: typer_801 (Jan 14, 2008 7:43 am)
Yeah that's the only reason I am holding on to my sedona 06..couldn't get anything for it. If you've seen my story my 04 sedona was a lemon. My 06 came home and broke down in my driveway. New car dies in driveway. Had it towed. They put a new battery in. I've since had problems with it screaching upon start up intermittently but enough to be super embarassing..as well as ticking/knocking with idle..of course they can never duplicate. Well in the last 2 days it broke down 3 times where I had to jump the battery. So it's been towed again with 13K on it to the shop and they are supposedly putting in a new part that was recalled that may help the ticking..but they say the engine start up is normal. I said..it's normal for you to start up a new car and have it screach or make a loud noise that people actually stop in their tracks and give you a 'your car is junk' look? That's normal? He said it was because of some explanation about oils and such not being spread out upon start uo? (I have no idea what he said to be honest but it was BS to me anyway). I told them to look at it again and fix this! I am going to apply for a 2nd lemon. It's just a peice of junk car. Yes all the bells and whistles are nice and the car runs nicely---but it's always in the shop for something. i wish I bought an Odessy too. It's worth the extra money not to have to deal with the shop. Plus they don't give you a rental anymore so your car goes in the shop and you are stranded for work etc. It's rediculous. I highly suggest anyone thinking of kia or hyundai to read and do your research. Read the experiences of others. My experience has been a terrible one and sucked the money from me. Yes my first was a lemon--but I piad 24 for it..and they gave me sticker for sticker for a new one (so I got no deals in the settlement) and had to shell out an extra 6K for an 04 to 06 upgrade (not sure how fair that was) so I paid 30K for this 06 when you think of it in my lemon deal..not good when seeing others getting an EX with sunroof and leather package for so much less. I really got ripped all around. If I file another lemon law I hope I can get cash back to go elsewhere. Ughh. I am going to file soon.
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Rough Kia Experiences
by lavrishevo
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Jan 14, 2008 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: rachluvjun (Jan 14, 2008 8:50 am)
Sounds like you have not had the best of luck... I'm sorry to hear this. I and many others have not had any problems. The bad thing about forums is you really get a biased opinion of autos. it is true that most owners without problems don't go onto forums at all. Only, for the most part except myself, people searching for information about an issue or advice post on these places so one can hardly call forums accurate in showing how a vehicle really is.
Honda does make a great product. My wife's civic is great but don't think the Ody is without problems. They had a huge problem with people loosing their transmissions between 80K to 110K. They even had to extend the warranty though many owners were not covered. There are a lot of other problems as well. Honda's quality has been sleeping a little lately and Toyota has overtaken them in many ways. Kia's problems seem to be the little things, which can be very frustrating, but it does seem the powertrain is pretty darn good.
As far as you paying 30K for the 06... my lord what were you thinking? Maybe you had not choice but man that is 11k more then I paid.
To answer a few questions you had.
There was a TSB on the a/c pulley making a knocking sound which was an easy fix.
Ticking on startup there was a TSB on the timing chain tensioner to be replaced, annoying sound but was not causing any damage. It is normal to have a little valve noise on DOHC motors on startup especially when cold or sitting for a bit. All the oil flows back down to the oil pan and has to be pumped back up into the engine when you start for for a sew seconds there is some valve tapping. Some engines are more prone to this then others and it is just the way they are designed. Running a full synthetic will help reduce this and is much better oil anyway.
Your screech sound on startup I have never hear of that is unique.
Again people have had problems with both Kia, Toyota, and Honda. All 3 are far from perfect. The Japs do have much better resale value but less warranty and a good deal higher price. What you get for your money Kia is far the best, though the few with horror stories will disagree I am sure.
Just my .02
Daniel
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Re: Pricing for 2007 EX w/ Power, Luxury, and Ent. packages [typer_801]
by siennami
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Jan 14, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: typer_801 (Jan 14, 2008 7:43 am)
The resale is exactly what I was afraid of, and that's why I traded mine so soon and got back in a Sienna. My 9 month old Sedona was valued at the same amount as the three yr.old VW Passat that I'd traded the year before! Crazy! I figured it would only get worse, so I went ahead and traded it, which was crazy in and of itself, but I got a Lifetime Warranty on the Sienna, and it gets much better gas mileage than the Sedona did. I had a much better experience with the Kia dealership; the salesman was great; in fact, I wish the ones at Toyota were more like him. I just prefer the Sienna. It's what I had before the Passat, and it's what I like.
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