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"Adjustable Pedals" dealer installed option?
by sarathyj
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Mar 28, 2007 (6:59 pm)
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Was looking around for a 2006 Kia Sedona EX with "Luxury Package" (Adjustable Pedals are a must for us, and it comes only with the Luxury Package). The local dealer has 2006 EX without the luxury package, but says they can install it themselves. I'm taking this with a pinch of salt, because I thought these options have to be added during manufacturing. Any thoughts. Should I go ahead with these guys or be circumspect? Thanks!
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- #421 of 544
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Re: bester1 must be making this up [uga91]
by stevenfjl
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May 05, 2007 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: uga91 (Jul 29, 2003 4:58 am)
What I've gained in features for the price I'll more than lose in what it costs to fuel this vehicle. I get 7MPG in the city and my driving habits are conducive to getting good mileage. My 2006 KIA Sedona EX vehicle was rated at 19MPG City although KIA has revised it to 18MPG. So, I'm getting only 37% of the rated mileage in the city. Highway mileage is great as I get 28MPG Highway. Unfortunately, I do little highway driving so my overall mileage is 11MPG. Considering that the current cost of fuel is just under $3 per gallon, based on my actual mileage its like paying $8 per gallon for city driving and $6 per gallon overall.
I've been trying to get KIA to do something about this since early September 2006. After much prodding I had a factory representative go for a fuel consumption test with me. The 28MPG Highway / 7MPG City I mentioned above was the results of that test. Since then KIA has REFUSED to do anything. There's even a loophole in the lemon law since mileage is not covered. So, BUYER BEWARE before making this purchase.
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- #422 of 544
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2007 Kia Sedona
by wileemom
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May 06, 2007 (5:23 pm)
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Basic Kia Sedona, only extra was a tow package. Paid 20,595 and took the 3.5 financing instead of the 1,000 rebate.
Kia Dealership in Auburn, WA. Nice salesman, easy experience.
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- #423 of 544
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Re: bester1 must be making this up [stevenfjl]
by bluedevils
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May 11, 2007 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: stevenfjl (May 05, 2007 7:09 am)
Obviously, 7 mpg is not normal for this vehicle, or any minivan for that matter. That sucks. I'd try everything you can think of to get the problem resolved. Couldn't this be some sort of underlying mechanical issue causing the van to use so much gas?
It is hard to understand how you can get 28 mpg highway but only 7 mpg city from the same vehicle. Perhaps a skilled mechanic might have some ideas?
Personally, I would scour the web, including Kia's own good info in their Kiatech area, looking for any sort of mechanical/driveability issues. Start reporting the symptoms to your dealer in hopes of getting them to replace as many components as possible. You probably won't need most/all of these new parts, but you might just find the needle in the haystack, i.e. the problem part that is causing the poor city fuel economy.
At this point, you've got nothing to lose.
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- #424 of 544
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Re: "Adjustable Pedals" dealer installed option? [sarathyj]
by 11b33t
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May 13, 2007 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: sarathyj (Mar 28, 2007 6:59 pm)
Can you not get a 2007 Sedona EX? You're right to be leery about an added package and suggest you get what will be done in writing. Check to make sure it doesn't invalidate any warrenties..
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- #425 of 544
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another kia lemon?
by rachluvjun
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May 14, 2007 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: 11b33t (May 13, 2007 12:35 pm)
I had a 2004 lemon which was traded in for a 2006. Since gettting it in Sept, I've had a dead battery. Arm rests broken in rear. Going back in for another broken arm rest soon. Broken 'oh sh#%" bar in rear. Knocking noise they can't duplicate. Ocassional squeal upon start up they can't duplicate since it's a once in a while thing. My tan leather seats get dirty so fast--they seem to take off your pants color. Not high quality leather. Now my automatic doors are not working. They'll open with the driver button controls and the key chain but they are all manual now when I pull the handle or hit the button by the actual seat. My experience with Kia's are nothing but trouble. I highly suggest those considering think twice. My experience is I am constantly in the shop with my kias.
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- #426 of 544
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Re: another kia lemon? [rachluvjun]
by johngus
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May 15, 2007 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: rachluvjun (May 14, 2007 11:06 am)
Just for balance, I need to post this. I also have a new 2006 Sedona EX with the power option and luxury option. I bought it in February. It now has 4800 miles on it. I love it. The only thing I have done is change oil. I changed to Mobil One. I paid 21895 plus tax and license. The sticker was 29895.
I also have a 2004 that I purchased new. It has 82,000 miles with no problems. In fact, I still have the original brake pads on it. While I love this Sedona, the 2006 clearly has a higher level of refinement.
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Re: bester1 must be making this up [bluedevils]
by stevenfjl
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May 15, 2007 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: bluedevils (May 11, 2007 2:14 pm)
Thanks for your suggestions. At this point KIA has actually 'flat out' REFUSED to do anything to try and correct the problem. They have seen firsthand the mileage issue and then told me that mileage is not warranted so they aren't going to do anything. I first contacted the dealership and was told that they have to follow KIA's policies for checking out the vehicle. They told me that KIA does not let them check the vehicle out until there is 5000 miles it. So I went to KIA. And a factory representative went for a fuel consumption test with me. My results of the poor mileage bore out and subsequently KIA told me that they 'will not' do anything for the problem -- 'period'. I've talked to mechanics, including two from a performance shop for high end cars and none have ever heard of such a disparity between highway and city mileage. I've contacted local TV stations and am currently working with a representative from one of them to try to get this problem resolved with KIA. I hope to have further information to post at a later date.
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- #428 of 544
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fuel consumption test
by bluedevils
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May 24, 2007 (11:54 am)
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I guess I don't understand why Kia would send a rep with you for a 'fuel consumption test' if they had no intentions of doing anything to remedy the problem? Have you asked them under what circumstances they WOULD do something? Otherwise, it makes no sense why they would bother having a Kia rep go with you to prove that the fuel consumption really is as bad as you claim.
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- #429 of 544
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Re: fuel consumption test [bluedevils]
by stevenfjl
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May 24, 2007 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: bluedevils (May 24, 2007 11:54 am)
When they decided to go for a fuel consumption test I thought that they had planned on fixing the issue if their mileage numbers bore out the same or similar to mine. In fact, the email I received from the factory rep that went on the test with me sent me an email about a week after the test and said that he would go for another fuel consumption test after the mileage reached 1500 to 2500 miles. At about 2000 miles I contacted him by email to schedule the test and did not receive a response. A week later I emailed him again and still got no response. In another week I emailed him yet again and still got no response after a week. So, I called him and left a message for him to call me back. He didn't call, but another representative from KIA did. That person told me that there is no warranty on mileage issues and that nothing would be done to correct it. When I pursued questioning him on the matter he simply stated that KIA will not do anything for this issue. I can't tell you what the rationale is, but I suspect that it is basically money. I think that they don't want to attempt any repair because then they may open themselves to a legal obligation to correct it. And, it may turn out to be a very expensive proposition for them. If they do nothing then their is no basis under the law requiring them to fix it. My auto mechanic contacted a friend of his that handles lemon law issues and the lawyer said to him -- let me guess, a factory representative checked it out and then they said they wouldn't fix it. So, I guess this is standard practice for auto manufacturers. Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.
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