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Re: Please help with input on 2006 models [ne03sedona] by tkcolorado
Apr 20, 2006 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: ne03sedona (Apr 19, 2006 8:37 pm)

You are really getting screwed in my opinion. First of all you are upside down on your car loan. Your car is not even worth as much as your loan (according to Edmunds) so their quote is bogus. They are shifting numbers around to make the deal sound good to you. Don't be fooled. You are a smart person, Edmunds lists your car RETAIL in clean condition at 11,594. Why would the dealership offer you exactly that AND a great deal on the van at the same time?? They wouldn't.
 
I know that new van looks really neat but I would suggest that you do some further research (I would highly suggest you read carbuyingtips.com, they even have a spreadsheet that will help you calculate how much to offer on the new car). I am guessing that if you asked them to deal with the numbers on the new car first and then asked about trade, they would give you next to nothing for your old car.
 
If you are truely serious about buying a new Kia van, then I would ask for quotes on the particular model you want via the interent. DO NOT put in trade in information. I would just ask about their "out the door" prices. As soon as you offer too much information like trade in, etc. they have the upper hand.
 
Last, why would you want to get rid of a perfectly good van? I would suggest seriously considering driving it for at least another year. If you REALLY MUST have the newer style van I would suggest waiting until the end of the year when rebates are much higher (like now the 2005 vans rebates are $5,000 wth killer fianancing, and kia typically does great end of year rebates and financing).
 
That is my two cents. I think you are going to lose a ton of money and be suckered into a van that you can get for much less at some point here in the next year. However, Im a budget freak and I like to get the best deals possible. I work hard for my money and I sure don't want to give it to some dealership
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Re: Please help with input on 2006 models [tkcolorado] by hrngffcr
Apr 20, 2006 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: tkcolorado (Apr 20, 2006 9:39 am)

I did extensive research on car buying when I bought my last car. I completely agree with what tkcolorado says. I was not specifically aware of the tradition of Kia having particularly good deals at the end of the year (it's good to have that info), but it is generally true that you should buy, if your schedule allows, the week between Christmas and New Years (end of the month and end of the year). In addition, although it is not as true as it used to be, buying at the end of this year will give you about 9 months of feed back from people who have purchased the 2006 Sedona to see what problems, if any, there are in this new generation of Sedona.
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Re: Please help with input on 2006 models [ne03sedona] by tdoughty
Apr 20, 2006 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: ne03sedona (Apr 19, 2006 8:37 pm)

I bought a 2005 in January, and in our opinion, stole it from the dealer. We are paying $350/month and it was on the lot with the wrapping paper from the plant. It is LX with leather and all the goodies. I looked at the 2006, and other than the electric sliding doors, felt this was the better deal. We got it marked $7,000 of sticker and they offered an amount on our trade in of a 1994 Passport that was on its last leg. If the 2003 can hold out, wait until the end of the year, then strike a deal on a 2006.
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Re: EX or LX prices in DFW area [geraldo_rivera] by smulvey
Apr 20, 2006 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: geraldo_rivera (Apr 11, 2006 5:41 pm)

I think you will find that the 2005 unit is being sold with a large discount of $ 5000. You can go to the Kia.com website to find a list of Kia Dealers. You can also call the Irvine office of Kia in California and ask for the name of the Regional Manager for Kia in your area. Then If you speak to that person , they can advise you where they would make a car available for you to buy. The regional person is in charge of all the sale and service in that area. Good Luck. My Sedona has 72K miles on it and it works well.
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Re: Please help with input on 2006 models [hrngffcr] by dc_driver
May 01, 2006 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: hrngffcr (Apr 20, 2006 10:38 am)

This is very good advice. There will always be a new and better model, and based on your post it does not sound like this is a "must have" van right now. To me, it sounds more like an impulse buy, and one that could be quite costly.
 
If you wait 6-12 months you should see the new Sedona's drop even further in price, while at the same time, your van has already done most of its depreciation. Also never negotiate your trade-in until after you negotiate the lowest price of the new van. I have also found end of month to be the best time to negotiate as dealers will sometimes sell vans cheaper than normal to meet sales quotas.
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Decided to wait it out.... by ne03sedona
May 02, 2006 (7:50 am)
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Hi back and thanks for all the input. I have indeed decided to wait at least till this time next year. You are right, this was an impulse thought, along with slick saleman jargon. Also, by the end of the year my 03 will be paid off. A huge bit of leverage there and I will still be under 35k miles!! Im thinking perhaps a left over 2006 in the next spring. It was a very hard decision, as I chewed them down to $26k/3.9% for EX with power and leather but no entertainment (not needed or wanted). I kept saying no, and then they would call with a better deal yet. Last call was they would throw in lifetime tires! Nice, but irrelevant to me as I drive so little, they would rot before they would wear out the tread. So for all of you trying to get one, KEEP SAYING NO! If they drop you, move on to another dealer. I personally have 3 KIA dealers within 22 miles. Good luck and all these posts really do help!
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Help verify my pricing before I buy? by caseybea
May 05, 2006 (7:15 am)
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Hi! I'm considering a 2006 base EX (no extra packages) for purchase. Superb minivan. I love the drive, and the warranty is just fantastic. (My current van- Grand Voyager with 140,000 miles!) I'd like comments from anyone on this deal - I have it in writing from my dealership:
 
Sedona EX (base, no extras) 23,700 ("invoice" price)
"marketing allowance" 711 (3%)
Destination Charge 670
"Dealer Service Fee" 79
Subtotal: 25,081
tax (Wisconsin) 1,408
Subtotal: 26,598
Add: DMV/license 65
Subtract: COMPETITIVE REBATE -2,000
 
Grand Total (includes tax, license, etc): 24,633
 
The "marketing allowance" varies by location; in Wisconsin it's 2%, in other states it's 3% (like Illinois). I am told the vehicle I seek (a red one) is only availbale from another dealership who obtained it (dealer exchange) for one in illinois-- thus the slightly higher marketing cost thing (3% instead of 2%) based on where the car originated, and not where I am.
 
I am also told the "competitive rebate" can only be applied after taxes and such are calculated. (this makes a difference of -$112).
 
  Comments? Anyone feel I have more negotiating room, or am I "there" already? Dealer is located in Wauwatosa, WI on mayfair road. I feel it's not a bad deal, but I want to compare with other people's buying experiences....
 
(And no, I'm not trading in the van-- gonna sell it privately)
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Re: Help verify my pricing before I buy? [caseybea] by bluedevils
May 05, 2006 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: caseybea (May 05, 2006 7:15 am)

Did you check kia.com or Edmunds or other sites for current rebates? The 2006 Sedona has a $1,000 rebate plus 3.9% APR financing in Michigan. I checked it today-- looks like this promo is valid thru 5/31/06.
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Re: Help verify my pricing before I buy? [bluedevils] by dc_driver
May 05, 2006 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: bluedevils (May 05, 2006 11:06 am)

Caseybea,
 
  bluedevies is right. I just checked Kia.com and you can receive both the "Competitive Bonus" rebate as well $1000 AND 3.9% finance rebate through Kia (if you qualify)...
 
link Kia Special Offer
 
I copied this from their website as well:
• Customers qualifying for the Sedona Competitive Bonus Program are eligible to utilize the APR Program.
 
So, you should definitely have some more negotiating room. BTW, 3.9% is a good rate. I shopped around and rates are going up...
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Re: Help verify my pricing before I buy? [dc_driver] by caseybea
May 05, 2006 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: dc_driver (May 05, 2006 11:23 am)

Hi- thanks for the tip- but I won't be financing the vehicle. I have a special fund that matured, and I'm simply going to use that and buy the car outright. I'll still set aside $500 a month to replenish the fund- "paid off" in 4 years. Each month my $500 'payment' is GETTING interest, not losing it. So yes, while the $1000 and 3.9% is attractive, it only applies to financing......
 
I did consider for a moment that I could finance it through KIA, and then just pay it off right away. Looks like they thought of that, as it also says "KMFC/HMFC Bonus Cash will be paid with monthly dealer participation". This means they'll take the $1000 and divide it by the number of months of payments. Pay it off early? You don't get the full $1K.... whoops! Smart....
 
Anyway, I have an update to the deal above-- I basically ended up taking offer #1 and went back to the dealer I started with (it's like throwing two pit bulls in a room-- hilarious, if you think about it). The offer from this last phone call was over $600 less than the one I quoted above. I emailed them the *exact* figures from my first quote- and then got a phone call from their Kia manager a few hours later. Got, I love the internet. No haggling in person (which I detest).
 
Phrased differently, I've got an offer for the Kia I want (Sedona EX) for $600 under 'invoice', and then an extra $2,000 off for that competitive rebate. Do you folks agree that's a good deal? (I think so.....)

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