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Replying to: jazacmom (Apr 24, 2005 12:52 pm) However, if you can get it out the door for $18998 plus TTL, that is a pretty good deal no matter how you slice it. You might haggle for some other options you want, like a bug/stone protector installed, spare keys, hitch or something else. All in all, even if you take the deal "as is" you're getting a pretty decent deal.
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Replying to: navyair (Apr 25, 2005 5:15 am) thx.
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Replying to: jazacmom (Apr 25, 2005 6:26 am) I would say the extra $3885 off is the difference between MSRP on the KIA that no one should pay and dealer invoice. The problem is I have been unable to locate the dealer invoice amount for the LX or EX. (Edmunds no longer lists the dealer invoice amounts except on the option packages). Without the dealer invoice amount you are left to wonder how much above or below dealer invoice you are paying. As far as a dealer offering an amount off MSRP that includes a rebate its just a sales tactic. At the end of the day you need to look at the contract and see the bottom line price. For example the dealer may at contract time throw on destination charges which one could argue are or are not part of the starting point of MSRP or other add ons like "etching". If you are unsure of what to do ask for the contract to be written and get a copy but do not sign it. This way you could post the actual numbers and get feedback from the informed members here at edmunds. A buddy of mine has an offer on an EX with DVD for $19,500 and he asked me if that was a good deal. I posted on edmunds to get the dealer invoice and once I obtain it I will find out his exact option packages and have him get a written estimate. Having this information and adding the dealer invoice price available on edmunds I can tell him the price above or below dealer invoice. After that its up to him how much he pays above or below that amount. Just not enough info right now. |
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Has anybody attempted to place an order on the 2006 yet? Any word on the release data?
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Replying to: carguy1234 (May 01, 2005 12:19 pm) kirstie_h Roving Host Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions |
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Replying to: goesks (Jul 29, 2003 10:39 pm) |
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I am looking for a Kia Sedona. How do I go about getting these rebates from Kia. Does anyone know if the front seats in the back can be removed. I have to put cargo through the side doors. I need all of the seats in the back of the van to come out. Scott |
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Replying to: bflah (Apr 10, 2005 2:47 pm) |
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Messages on these boards which do not include accurate information about trade-ins and dealer add-ons are pretty much useless. Make the boards valuable to shoppers. Here's how: First things first... State the actual bottom line MSRP of the new car, as shown on the official, federal government mandated window (Monroney) sticker, which will include all factory and port installed standard and optional equipment and the destination or transportation charge. If you traded in a car, let us know, according to the Kelley Blue Book, the condition evaluation and trade-in value of the car you traded. Tell us the mileage of your trade-in. State the trade-in $ amount actually allowed on your sale contract. Then, list details and prices for all dealer installed options and any included (free?) maintenance or oil changes or extended warranties, wax jobs, pin striping, paint or fabric protection packages, Scotchgard, window tinting, "additional dealer markup", "market adjustment", "dealer preparation", or any other amounts which were a part of the deal. These items are DEALER PACS and nearly pure profit to the dealer. They are often itemized on an official looking, but totally unnecessary, addendum window sticker attached to and styled much like the official government required MSRP window sticker. Also indicate the amount of the "document fee" charged by the dealer for writing up and sending in paperwork done inside the dealership to ensure ownership is properly transferred, thereby completing the sale to protect the dealer. (This is actually just business overhead expense, similar to salesman commissions and the building's electric bill. As such, it is bogus, but most dealers get away billing the customer for it anyway. Truly, it is additional dealer profit.) It is not really necessary to itemize government charges such as registration, license plate, or EPA tire fees since dealers cannot negotiate these amounts anyway. Actually, the government is just using the dealers as tax collectors here. Finally, tell us about all rebates, incentives or subsidized financing which applied to your deal. If you posted your deals earlier, please post a correction to include the above information. If you are going to post your deal in the future, please include all the above info in your post. Thanks.
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Brand new 2004 Sedona EX with anti-lock brakes and sunroof and dealer-installed integrated DVD entertainment system, window tint, and pinstripe. MSRP was $ 24,020 without dealer installed options. The DVD was an additional $799, window tint $299, pinstripe $299 so full dealer sticker price was $ 25,417. That was not my purchase price. September 2004 purchase price was $ 16,700 including all items listed above. That does not include tax, license, nor the $350 document fee. (As part of the $16,700, I figure I paid $100 for the window tint and $40 for the pinstripe.) To complete the deal, I also bought a service contract for an additional $180. It prepays up to 12 oil and filter changes available during the first 36 months of ownership. $15 for each dealership oil change seemed like a good deal to me. There was no trade-in. Rebates totalling $4500 were assigned to the dealer to arrive at the $16,700 price. Anyone get a better deal?
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