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Re: 2007 SE [dslunceford] by rprossil
Jul 11, 2006 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: dslunceford (Jul 11, 2006 8:48 am)

Part of the difference could be due to the tax laws in your state. Here in Illinois, you pay the tax on the entire cost of the vehicle, not just the portion applicable to your lease term. It stinks, but for the present, we have to live with it. I believe there are a few other states that work this way as well, but most only charge the lessee tax that applies during the term of the lease.
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Re: 2007 SE [rprossil] by dslunceford
Jul 11, 2006 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: rprossil (Jul 11, 2006 8:55 am)

Yes, in Virginia I paid tax based on full purchase price of vehicle.
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Re: To give all an idea whats available [mrmcgiv] by tjshan
Jul 11, 2006 (11:39 pm)
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Replying to: mrmcgiv (Jul 10, 2006 10:08 pm)

Mary,
 
Yep, We originally looked at the 3.5S, but we wanted power seats,(my wife was not sure she could get comfy in the manual seats) and the only way you could get them was the 3.5SL with the special edition package. The backup camera was a welcome edition as well, and has already found itself to be useful in maneuvering our tight driveway as well as parking lots. I am ashamed to say it, but it even stopped me from backing up when my errant niece ran behind the van without me seeing her. She was pretty far away and in the rear pillar blind spot, but when I saw the movement off to the side I stopped and got out to check.
 
We however did NOT want the DVD, the kids watch enough TV and they do not need to be whining for it every 10 minute trip. On the long trips we set up the portable DVD. However, the window sticker said it was wireless headphones compatible, and since the headphones are not available as an option, and another dealer says he does not even know how to order them, I am assuming they come with the car.
 
As for the heated seats, it may be a type-o, but if you look in the options matrix it shows the heated seats standard on the 3.5SL Spec Ed package. the list to the right of the equipment in the 3.5sl Spec ed package does not list the heated seats.
 
So far I do not understand why this van gets such bad reviews, it seems better in many ways to any other van we looked at, and the pure space is just super. why would anyone drive around in one of those overstuffed Toyotas?
 
Still have not heard form anyone about whether oil changes have to be done at the dealer...someone out there has to know.
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Re: To give all an idea whats available [tjshan] by dslunceford
Jul 12, 2006 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: tjshan (Jul 11, 2006 11:39 pm)

It would be very rare that any warranty would ever require basic (or any) maintainance to be performed at the dealer. However, warranty service may require proof that you have been maintaining the vehicle properly. If you get oil change or other work elsewhere, be certain to maintain receipts/proof of work to provide if needed. I'd be surprised if your dealer doesn't have competitive rates for oil changes, however. Many typically meet/beat the quick lube prices and you have the benefit of having service records kept by the dealer.
 
For instance, the dealer we just bought from has a $29.99 oil change special listed on their website. I called the local Jiffy Lube and was given a price of $34.99 and can easily find a $5 off coupon online, so services are priced the same.
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Re: To give all an idea whats available [tjshan] by baxter3
Jul 12, 2006 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: tjshan (Jul 11, 2006 11:39 pm)

I don't think you get the headphones unless you have the DVD. Also, looking at the 06 SL list of options, heated front seats are only available with the SL Leather/Bose pkg. You stated you had the special edition pkg which does not list heated seats. Hope this helps.
 
Sounds like you are really enjoying your purchase, and I agree, the roominess is just great!
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Re: 2007 SE [dslunceford] by biggity
Jul 18, 2006 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: dslunceford (Jul 11, 2006 8:48 am)

> This was my first lease as well...if there are others
> that have greater experience and could comment on why
> there may be such a spread, it would be appreciated.
 
dslunceford, you leased? In your first post (#499), it looks like your talk about a price for buying and a lease deal, and it wasn't clear what you did.
 
baxter3, you also leased, I see.
 
I don't think $711 under invoice is the real price for someone who is buying cash. It must be a nominal value for setting the terms of the lease, and there must be something in the lease, such as residual, money factor, or interest, that is favorable for Nissan and allows them to state the $711 under invoice in the lease. (Or maybe there is some kind of regional manufacturer-to-dealer incentive where you are.)
 
The reason is, I just don't see $711 under invoice in my market. Every dealer I've talked to starts to balk just before invoice, and goes to stone at invoice. Some won't go to invoice. One guy gave me a token under invoice.
 
Can anybody confirm a non-financed (at least not by F&I at the dealership), no trade, purchase (not lease) deal on a 2007 Quest for less than invoice?
 
BTW, dslunceford, you say in post #499:
 
> Couldn't find holdback info for the 2007s yet, but it was
> around $1000 for the 2006 SE's, so I'm figuring the
> dealer still made $300+ on the sale of the vehicle (which
> was in stock).
 
But the things I've read say that a dealer wants/needs $1300 or $1400 gross profit to make his net profit, and the holdback is a primary source of that gross that he won't give up. So a dealer making $300 gross is dubious to me.
 
Comments welcome.
 
I'm not really for screwing dealers, even though they do screw customers frequently. If they treat me okay, and give me what I want at a price that I'm agreeable to, that's a good deal for me (and probably for them).
 
The only problem is "a price that I'm agreeable to" depends on the market, and is very hard to know well because the dealers and manufacturers are always playing games with prices.
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Re: 2007 SE [biggity] by dslunceford
Jul 18, 2006 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: biggity (Jul 18, 2006 11:29 am)

Yes, I leased. But I didn't go into the deal telling them that. That's none of the salesperson's concern, frankly. I made my best deal and was prepared to buy with an E-Loan check (already approved)/cash or their financing, if better, or their lease program. AFTER making the deal I had the financing guy work up both buy and lease scenarios. During the sale negotiation we never discussed whether I planned to lease or buy (it was never asked) just that I had no trade to deal with.
 
It shouldn't matter to the dealer whether or not you buy or lease (unless they are able to offer lease specials, which they would then push -- there are no such specials I'm aware of currently).
 
Since earlier post, I found holdback info for Nissan is 2% of Invoice (http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incentives/holdback/index.html), so that would mean on my vehicle holdback would have been around $688.
 
I don't know why they made the deal, necessarily, except it was stock on hand, was a holiday weekend, and Nissan wants to finally find some success in the minivan space?
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Re: 2007 SE [dslunceford] by biggity
Jul 18, 2006 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: dslunceford (Jul 18, 2006 12:32 pm)

Yeah, it's a head scratcher. Maybe there was some sort of test marketing area or a special manufacturer-to-dealer incentive for getting the first ones out the door, or something.
 
Funny, though, since you and baxter3 got the same deal, it must have been some circumstance common to both of your dealers.
 
I guess some more information would be helpful, if anyone has something to share.
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Re: To give all an idea whats available [baxter3] by tjshan
Jul 19, 2006 (12:18 am)
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Replying to: baxter3 (Jul 12, 2006 7:36 pm)

I kindof figured that on the headphones but no one can tell me how to go about getting them, and since the car is supposed to have "dual media playback" how can you do that without the headphones? Has anyone used that feature yet?
 
Also, not to be argumentative, but if you look in the options matrix it shows the heated seats standard on the 3.5 SL with the Spec Ed package (the little box has SL in it denoting the Spec Ed package not the L denoting the leather package). The packages list to the right of the equipment matrix for the 3.5SL Spec ed package does not list the heated seats so one or the other must be incorrect.

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