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Replying to: bat1161 (Mar 16, 2006 10:04 am) You make an excellent point. My problem is time constraints. However I think I may have figured out an efficient way to contact virtually every Massachusetts' dealer by email. Via the official Subaru site I can search Massachusetts dealers, click their site, click contact and then click email. The trick will probably having a sample document to copy / paste from and then perhaps customize it for those few dealers I've been shopping for a used one with. In that email I plan on letting them know that my target price is $200.00 over "real" dealer invoice, specifying that the only add-on in that figure will be the "destination charge". In my mind I've been debating whether to attach a copy of the email from Becker &/or link them to the Fitzgerald site (Fitzgerald prices for a comparable car are about $1,000 more than Becker but I probably need to add the $208 N.E. emissions if not the $100 dealer swap charge). I did make the mistake of using the Edmunds online quote service. I've gotten about three replies in the $23,000 to $24,000 range, maybe more. The numbers were high enough that I wasn't paying much attention. I did test the waters by replying by email to the one dealer that didn't quote me a price but sought more info from me. In that email reply I mentioned $200 over "real" dealer invoice inclusive of destination charge only. I gave them a "ball park" on the lowest figure I have so far, rounding down from $21,300 to $21,000. Can you hear the laughter from where you are? We'll see how that goes. Wish me luck. ~Cath |
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Replying to: hoople (Mar 16, 2006 11:20 am) Regarding the negotiations with my carrier, they are proceeding slowly for strategic reasons. I don't have the time or energy to argue any further with them unless and until it becomes absolutely necessary. At the risk of ruining your opinion of me I'll tell you that I have a background in insurance claims, with some Auto property damage experience in my distant past; and I think I have probably done the best I can with my carrier. (I will not bore you with all of the excruciating details which include producing receipts for a newer engine with only 20K miles on it, researching comparable vehicles available for sale, checking book value, reviewing Massachusetts appraisal regulations, etc., etc., etc.) I finally contacted the carrier of the at-fault vehicle and they have deemed it repairable. No big surprise since that was my carrier's position at first. Again, it is a borderline total. I was hoping to avoid towing it to a shop for a formal supplement but we finally had that done the day before yesterday. If I decide to push for a total I think I can do better with the at-fault vehicle's carrier since I can always sue their insured. Whereas with my company I would have to go through the time and expense of arbitration, which may be binding. Fortunately for me, my carrier, and ultimately the other carrier, I have been driving our third vehicle, the econobox "commuter car"; so the clock isn't ticking on a rental vehicle. Squeezing behind the steering wheel in my current condition is the closest thing to exercise for me these days besides sprinting for the train on occasion. As long as I can stand the sardine in a can routine I have the luxury of time to aggressively shop for the new "family car" and if I do well enough, possibly repair the OB sport, trade in the econobox and demote the OB Sport to commuter car status. Whew... Did you follow all that? By the way, how much did your carrier increase their original offer? I don't have a before and after figure from my carrier since I made my best case going into it. However, given the age of my car their target figure was basically private party sale ($4,500, or so they say) and with the documentation I provided on the condition of my car the actual offer was basically the low end of dealer retail ($6,200). Of course you and I both know I can't replace the car for that amount and have any peace of mind not knowing the history of the car I am buying. Anyways, thanks for the feedback; and tune in tomorrow. ~Cath |
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Replying to: cathmac (Mar 13, 2006 1:28 pm) could you run a VIN check on 4S3BL676654225763 ?
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Folks I picked up my new 06 xt a couple of weeks ago and the dealer wanted $3,250 for Gold Plus warranty. This would equate to 10% of the MSRP,seems way high to me. Anybody give me some guidance on this? Thanks |
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Replying to: cruiser6 (Mar 17, 2006 9:11 am) The former record was around $1800, so that dealer is hopeless. I would shop at other dealers. I hear there may soon be a tool on the internet to help Subaru customers shop for warranties, if I hear any more I'll share it here. You can buy up to 3 years or 36k miles after the new purchase, so no hurry. -juice |
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Replying to: cruiser6 (Mar 17, 2006 9:11 am) Mark |
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Replying to: dkbrown (Mar 17, 2006 8:10 am) I haven't decided whether to renew the subscription. It looks like I'm in the market for a new 2006 now. Is the vehicle you are interested in being offered for sale through a dealer? Most dealers will run the Carfax report for you. I am assuming it the Dealer version includes all the same information available to Buyers through personal subscriptions. The one thing you do want to check for is that they give you all of the pages. My sister got a Carfax type report from a dealer and page 3 of 7 was missing. I still don't know if it contained any critical pages. Reports for newer vehicles generally contain about 8 pages and the upper right of each page will note "Page 1 of 8, Page 2 of 8, ..." and so on. ~Cath |
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Replying to: cruiser6 (Mar 17, 2006 9:11 am) A couple of pages back I posted information regarding the best price on a Subaru backed "Added Assurance" plan. Here is a summary: Non-turbo, $0.00 Deductible, Gold Plus, 7 yr / 100K: $2,460.00 MSRP. Phone quote from Luke Higly (sp?) of Stacy Subaru, Brattleboro, VT,: $1,530.00. However, I asked him to fax me the quote and he crossed that figure out and replaced it with $1,430.00. That's slightly better than 40% off the $2,460 MSRP. Additionally, there is a recent posting from someone else indicating that they may have some sort of owner loyalty discount of $200.00. This is for someone that is buying his third Subaru. Apparently he has to submit some documentation following his purchase. If you already own or are replacing a Subaru you may want to call them and see if you are eligible. ~Cath
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I called them yesterday and asked for a price on a 06 Outback with auto as only option and he came back with a price of $20,999 and then asked how much for a Limited and it was $2k more at $23,000. The guys are doing some deep discounts!! I emailed about 10 dealers and no one was close to Beckers prices. $21,500 from Fitxmall and $21,700 from a dealer in Va. All the rest were in the low $22k range. I'm in NC and have a business trip in Pa in 2 weeks, I might just have to stop by and see how much they will give me on my trade. Wonder if we could have Becker give us more of a discount if we say we saw them on Edmunds?? Hoople....did you get yours yet?? Let us know how it went |
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Replying to: steve98 (Mar 18, 2006 6:59 am) I had a slight snag in my 2006 Outback Purchase. We showed up for my schedual pick-up on Friday. The salesman asked if we had the VIN number on the car...of course we did...I had to get my insurance card for the deal....started to get that "UH-oh" feeling. He said that they found hood damage on the car I had test drove and had selected as the 'ONE". He said he had another car exactly alike and lets finish the deal. I told them that I did not like this turn of events, I had to travel a good distance, and why hed no one called to let me know about the switch! He said he tried to reach me but my phone was busy..hmm! I insisted on test driving the car. Call it mental...but I did not like the "FeeL" of this swapped car. It did not have the same drive feel of the car I had selected. The brakes had a distinct "pulse" and my wife heard it as well while siting in the back. I asked to drive with the mechanic for his opinion. He said it is probably just the rust on the brakes that will go away with time. He also understood why I would not be real happy with selecting this car. I asked to see the damavged car. Turns out it was "slight" damage on the spoiler. When they had removed the protected covering, they had noticed that there was places where Subaru just did not finsh off the paint. I say it was slightly larger than your pinkey Nail, but it was there. I took the damaged car out and it had just a better ride and no pulse in the brakes what so ever. And another curious thing that my wife had pointed out...the swapped car had NO "New Car Smell" It was just not there! The damaged car had that "distinct New car Perfume".. They clamed it was because of the cleaning of the car's interior. But I have bought many new cars in my life...all had that smell. It is what made that first drive so memorable. Now I have a headache. And it was not from the smell. LET ME ALSO SAY...Becker did not try to force me to take the car. This could be purely a bad set of luck! I am not saying that there was any "Bait and Switch" going on....I just had that feelinjg that If I took the switched car I would be using my "Subaru Warrenty" quicker than I might have expecte4d. And with this dealer so far away..the correction of any problems would go to a dealer who I did NOT buy the car from...and I am sure that they would not be as diligent to fix any brake issues and such. So I asked if they could change out the spoilers! NOt sure if that is a big deal...ANYONE KNOW?? Salesman was beside himself, but Sales manager was friendly and said it would be no problem. So what do you all think? Was I being too paranoid? I go back on Monday to try and finish the sale! Hoop |
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