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Subaru Outback, Wagon, SUV
#3233 of 3392 Subaru Outback Buying Advice
Nov 07, 2012 (3:13 pm)
Iíve driven a 1997 legacy outback for 7 years and loved it, barely no issues, but recently lost it to flood. In the market to buy a new Outback, but have gotten stuck on whether I should buy a $6000 2001 model 123,000 miles, or if itís worth paying $12,000 for a newer 2007 model 104,000 miles.
I can afford the 2007 model only if it will save me repair costs down the line, but seeing that the mileage is almost the same I wonder if I will?
Here are some other factors to consider:
2001 LL bean model:
had a 2008 rear/side impact accident, back bumper and back/right side replaced. Some rust there.
6 cylinder, super quiet motor. Runs really smooth. Super clean car, looks well taken care of. Dealership have put in new tires, tire rods, breaks, water pump, and anything else to make it ďlike newĒ
4 cylinder, 30 day warranty,
only one owner, but looking over the carfax report it has had a lot of repairs such as
Engine/powertrain computer/module replaced
Drive belt(s) replaced
Oil and filter changed
Drive belts replaced
Light bulb(s) replaced
Front brake pads replaced and rotors resurfaced
And failed emission inspection at 70000 miles
Failed safety inspection at 50000 miles
Any advice would be great. Thanks!
#3234 of 3392 Twin Cities Outback
Nov 09, 2012 (1:06 pm)
Tomorrow (November 10) we will be picking up our Venetian Red Pearl 2013 Outback 2.5i Premium (CVT). Pre-installed options are the All Weather Package, all-weather mats, and the rear bumper guard.
We were going through online inventories of the different Twin Cities Subaru dealerships when we came across this car. Walser Subaru had it offered at $24,598 (not including tax/license fee. etc.), which frankly stunned us. We called the dealership to make sure that the number was not an error, which they assured was not. We drove it, and decided to buy.
It appears that Walser Subaru is making significant markdowns for the Subarus, except for the Impreza/Crosstrek and BRZ. I wonder whether or not other area dealers are doing the same.
Subaru HAS to be giving dealerships major incentives to do this. TrueCar shows $26,301 as the estimated cost for the identically-configured Outback.
#3235 of 3392 Re: 2013 Subaru Limited 2.5i Price? [ksdjwd]
Nov 09, 2012 (7:02 pm)
It was 27220 before tax and title. I went without the moonroof package. It was a base limited with floor mats, body side molding, and something else but I am forgetting at the moment. We went with graphite gray. It was tough to find one without a moonroof. With moonroof the best price was like 28,600. Yah let me know what you do! We are loving the car so far.
#3236 of 3392 Re: Twin Cities Outback [Financing]
Nov 10, 2012 (6:46 pm)
Today we picked up our Outback as per stated above.
We were pre-approved at our credit union at a super low rate (1.24% for 60 months), but the dealership (Walser Subaru in Burnsville) tried to match it. They did not succeed, as their best offer was 1.79% for 60 months.
However, this seems to indicate that the current 1.9% financing deal is not necessarily carved in stone. In your negotiation with the dealership of your choice, after everything has been negotiated, it may be worth asking for a better interest rate than 1.9% that is advertised. Subaru of America's offer may not get lower than 1.9%, but the dealership's own financial arm might be able to shave another 10 basis points or so, as our experience indicates. The worst that can happen is that they will say no.
#3237 of 3392 Understanding Edmunds pricing
Nov 11, 2012 (6:15 pm)
I'm trying to understand the pricing of accessories used in calculating the Edmund's TMV. Does the invoice price/MSRP on the accessories include labor or just parts? A dealer gave me a price sheet on accessories and the retail is significantly higher than the MSRP shown on Edmunds.
I'm trying to find out the true invoice price on a 2013 OB with a number of accessories/options and I'm unclear if the Edmunds numbers accurately portray both parts/labor for those options.
#3238 of 3392 Re: Subaru Outback Buying Advice [dannysa]
Nov 12, 2012 (1:24 pm)
These are tough ones on which to offer reasonable advice!
I'm actually surprised that some of that stuff on the '07 even popped up on a Carfax (bulb replacements... really?). Drive belts, battery, light bulbs, brake pads.... that's all good stuff to have replaced. Really, though, the only "repair" is the computer replacement. That might be a concern, as well as failed emissions inspections... but both of those depend on what the issue actually was. In some areas, worn drive belts (or bulbs out) can cause a failed inspection. In others, those things aren't even checked. For the computer, when was it replaced and why?
Again depending on the area, the price on the '07 might be high. If you decide to go that route, make good use of your thirty days... they go quick! Also, make sure the car's timing belt was replaced, as those are due at 105K. If there is no paperwork to back up whether the belt was replaced, assume it wasn't (if the timing belt breaks, your engine is toast). If not, reduce your offer price accordingly.
For the '01, the H6 is a reliable engine. You shouldn't have to worry about the head gaskets, at the very least! You'll need to feed it premium fuel, plus it will return lower fuel economy, but you should be able to more than make up for that in purchase price and (possibly) insurance rates.
Also, I'm sure there are more fish in the sea if neither of these look like the best bet. Good luck with your decision!
#3239 of 3392 Re: Understanding Edmunds pricing [ksdjwd]
Nov 12, 2012 (4:35 pm)
My understanding is that those part prices are virtually always parts only, exclusive of labor. In addition, each dealership can and does set its own pricing for the parts and accessories.
#3240 of 3392 Re: Understanding Edmunds pricing [ksdjwd]
Nov 12, 2012 (5:53 pm)
The prices listed on Edmunds and other websites are for accessories installed at the Subaru factory or port. Websites don't reflect prices a dealer will charge for accessories installation at the dealership and the prices will almost always be higher. The dealer charges for the part and shop labor to install. Depending on the accessory, the labor component can be significant. Accessories are always cheaper to have install at the factory. The downside is one has to do a factory order and wait for the vehicle.
#3241 of 3392 Re: 2013 Subaru Limited 2.5i Price? [kevinohio]
Nov 13, 2012 (9:20 am)
The Limited has a few more things/items over the Premium and I did look at one. I did not want much of what the Limited offered and tghe Premium fit the bill.
The 1.9% financing is a good deal and my wife and I took that. That rate beat most banks and credit unions.
If you are an Ohio resident, then you should pay Ohio tax only. I lib=ve in Maryland and have purchased cars in Virginia. I paid Maryland sales tax only. Not every state works the same way so may want to investigate.
#3242 of 3392 Re: 2013 2.5 ltd. w/appearance pkg. [subymand]
Nov 13, 2012 (12:41 pm)
Actually, the MSRP and Invoice pricing were $300 higher since I got the PZEV version. Liberty Auto Subaru in the Chicago burbs.