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Subaru Outback, Wagon, SUV
#2888 of 3392 2011 Subaru Premium w/HK, Moonroof
Aug 01, 2011 (11:03 am)
Just picked up a 2011 Subaru Outback Premium with the Hardmon kardon system, Moonroof and I think AWP. Also came with the USB media hub.
I told the dealer I'd pay 92% of MSRP, which matched what I was seeing as a good deal according to truecar.com - basically this was just under dealer invoice. So I got the deal but I broke down and ended up buying the 7-year extended warranty and 3 year service plan.
Happy happy joy joy!
#2889 of 3392 Re: 2011 Subaru Premium w/HK, Moonroof [krisedm1]
Aug 01, 2011 (11:17 am)
Nice thing is you get roadside assistance the whole time, i.e. 7 years' worth.
#2890 of 3392 Re: 2011 Subaru Premium w/HK, Moonroof [ateixeira]
Aug 01, 2011 (11:44 am)
Not sure if its gold? The pamphlets indicate there are two levels but the offer they gave me only listed one. I'll have to check with the dealer!
#2891 of 3392 Re: 2011 Subaru Premium w/HK, Moonroof [krisedm1]
Aug 01, 2011 (12:16 pm)
#2892 of 3392 understanding TMV in buying a Subaru Outback
Aug 03, 2011 (2:27 pm)
I need some help in understanding and using the TMV in buying a Subaru Outback. When negotiating with a dealer here in New England, I got tripped up and confused when a salesperson told me the dealer's invoice was higher than the national figures available on Edmunds.com (because there is a single independent distributor in New England for all dealers). He said the TMV that I offered was LOWER than his invoice cost and had a sheet for the model that supported this. Yet, the Edmunds' site says the TMV reflects what is happening regionally. What am I not understanding?
#2893 of 3392 Re: understanding TMV in buying a Subaru Outback [atherton86]
Aug 03, 2011 (3:02 pm)
Not surprising, TMV is not selling the car. TMV is just a guide for the consumer, not the dealership. Subaru is one of the most transparent of the manufacturers in regards to the cost of a vehicle. There are no real "hidden" incentives as there are with most manufacturers and the markup is very aggressive. Right now it is a supply and demand situation. Demand is much higher than supply but will get much better in the coming months.
#2894 of 3392 Re: understanding TMV in buying a Subaru Outback [fasttex]
Aug 03, 2011 (5:02 pm)
Thanks for the response. That's helpful and reassuring. I thought the TMV was a "reasonably current" figure reflecting what is happening regionally modified by some mathematical formula. Wouldn't the TMV take into account the higher dealer invoice costs as well as current market conditions?
#2895 of 3392 Re: understanding TMV in buying a Subaru Outback [atherton86]
Aug 04, 2011 (9:38 am)
I think it is based on model year, so the "current conditions" may not factor in as strongly, but yes, it should take into consideration the added Subaru of NE fee. In the end, the dealer will say what they think they can get away with saying to convince you to line his pockets. If you don't think the car is worth that, walk away.
#2896 of 3392 Reasonable Profit?
Aug 06, 2011 (10:16 am)
What is "Reasonable Profit" on a car? 10%, 5%, 2%, 0%? Or is something that dealers don't deserve? After all they just want to "line their pockets".
#2897 of 3392 how did i do? 2.5i Premium in Seattle, WA
Aug 07, 2011 (8:25 am)
hey guys, thanks for all the helpful chatter here - I only learned of this forum when I started getting serious about buying our first outback. I did make some mistakes in the process though (such as - i told them i was paying cash before settling on a price, not waiting until the end of the month, ...), so i'm just wondering how I did!
we got the 2.5i Premium, with AWP, Bluetooth, auto-dimming mirror with compass and homelink, all-weather floor mats, and rear bumper cover, for $25,420 ($28170 out the door). This is below what TMV and TrueCar are giving me for our area, but I wonder if I could have gotten an even better deal! thanks