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Subaru Outback, Wagon, SUV
May 18, 2011 (8:00 am)
We recently purchased a 2011 Outback from a dealership in Central Jersey. I shopped by e-mail for all dealerships within a 100 mile radius.
We were trying to keep the cost down so we actually weren't interested in the Moonroof, but it was very difficult (especially after the earthquake) to find one that had the darker interior (only available with 3 colors) and no moonroof.
The dealership I purchased at offers a lifetime warranty on the engine, transmission, and differentials and free oil changes for the first year. Unfortunately, we live about 60 miles north of this dealership and if I get my car serviced elsewhere, it voids my lifetime warranty (obviously, I don't void the regular warranties that come with the vehicle per federal law).
The car came with several options I wasn't really interested in, like the Rear Chrome Trim, or the Moonroof Air Deflector, but with the 2011 Model Year coming to an end and the earthquake putting stress on the existing supply, we felt it would be best to purchase rather than hold out. Especially because of the 1.9% financing.
Sticker Price inlcuding the options is $31,819 according to TrueCar.
Options: Power Moonroof, Rear Dimming Rearview Mirror w/ Backup Camera, Body Side Moulding, Rear Cargo Net, All Weather Mats Front & Rear, Moonroof Air Deflector, Rear Bumper Cover, Rear Chrome Garnish, Splash Guards.
We purchased it for $28,710, plus a $189 "window etch transfer fee" (which I'm sure is a ripoff, but my insurance company takes more than this off over the life of the car via discounts) plus sales tax (7%) of just about $2,025. State Tire Fee of $7.50 and 4-year registration and specialized license plate fee of $454.00, and lastly a Documentation Fee of $229
Total amount financed was $31,617. We chose not to place a down payment at all, nor trade in, because of the low APR. As a result, we have a high (but expected) payment for 36 months. I think we end up spending around $850 in total interest over the life of the loan, but we felt it would be better to keep our hypothetical down payment in our bank account, earn interest, and end up in actuality only paying around $400 in interest when all is said and done.
That being said, the dealership was very friendly and approachable. They appeared to be honest and trustworthy. I would purchase from this dealership again. The hardest decision is deciding whether I want to pay an inflated price for Subaru Dealer Service to maintain the lifetime warranty, or if I want to bring it to my new favorite independent mechanic which is a lot closer to my home.
As for the car itself, it drives great, and I enjoy it a lot more than my 2009 Legacy Limited (which is what my wife has been driving since `08) The CVT took me a few days to get used to because I expected "shift shock" at certain points and I had to get over the fact that I wouldn't over-rev the engine if I mashed it down.
The only things I miss on the 2011 are the "E/T Timer" which is often seen on that same LCD panel as your fuel mileage, distance to empty, and temperature multifunction screen... and there's no temperature gauge. There's a blue LED that illuminates and extinguishes when the engine is cold, and it turns red if it's too hot. The seat warmers aren't 5 different positions like the Legacy's, you only have low or high. I like the idea of the Outback's "Auto" light sensor, where the lights come on automatically, but I got flipped off a few times going under some overpasses because people thought I was flashing my lights at them to drive faster.
All in all a great ride, a satisfying purchase for our little one on the way, and we're looking forward to taking care of this car for a majority of the next decade. I think I may be hooked on Subaru for life!
I forgot to mention that this was a demo. They had the possibility of bringing in the exact car we'd gone to the dealership to purchase via flatbed from Pennsylvania, but that car was also a demo. The car had 2,200 miles on it, and was given to the Service Manager. I wasn't sure I would be interested in a demo because of the abuse that typical test-drive cars go through, but it seemed like a good deal. Time will tell.
The average paid for this car, with options, was $30,310 excluding Taxes and Fees, according to TrueCar, so essentially we saved $1600. This equates to about 73 cents per mile driven while it was a demo. Documentation I found on the internet (had my Blackberry with me while I was at the dealership) showed that the majority of dealers pay between 25 and 40 cents per mile.
The first offer that they presented to us was somewhere between the typical 25 and 40 cent value, which wasn't surprising, so we countered with $1 per mile, prepared to accept anything above 70 cents a mile.
Again, was a little weird getting a demo, but I'll be sure to update as time goes on. Until then, car rides like a dream.
#2871 of 3456 Re: 2011 Outback [pilot1226]
May 18, 2011 (8:27 am)
Thanks for the detailed post. Enjoy. We pick our new 2.5i Limited w/moon on Saturday. For one year registration in NH I think we'll pay more than your 4-year rate...but not sales tax.
#2872 of 3456 Re: 2011 Outback [pilot1226]
May 21, 2011 (8:28 am)
Sounds like you got a great deal. Was it a 3.6 Limited?
#2873 of 3456 Re: 2011 Outback [yazyazoo]
May 21, 2011 (7:12 pm)
No, it was the 2.5i. We own a Legacy 2.5i and were pretty happy with the power and fuel economy. The main reason we didn't consider the 3.6 was primarily the additional cost and decreased fuel economy. Today's 4-cylinders are drastically different from the ones in the 90's and even early 00's if it's been a while since you've driven them. In my experience in the last month of ownership with the Outback, and the last 3 years with my Legacy, I just don't need that kind of power.
If I had a trailer or was driving up steep hills or things of the sort, I could potentially see a use in the 6-cylinder.
Be cautious shopping for any Limited trim because the moonroof and other options are considered extras.
By the way, I have exceeded the window sticker in mileage: I am pushing 34+ mpg on highway using Cruise Control. City is around 25 mpg.
#2874 of 3456 Hard to get a good deal post-earthquake?
Jun 13, 2011 (12:28 pm)
I just test drove the Outback 2.5i (automatic) and I was pretty impressed. However, the pricing I was being offered was a lot less impressive - the premium with AWP was sticker $27,377, and they would only take $500 off. Edmunds TMV is $25,336. I'm seeing a TMV and reports of people getting the Limited for about this sticker price! I'm seriously considering this car, but am I just not negotiating well, or is there no more room for haggling since the disasters in Japan? For $27,600 (TMV for the Limited), I'd buy. May even take the moonroof if it's only $1000 more.
FYI - this is in Buffalo, NY.
Thanks for the help!
Jun 13, 2011 (12:48 pm)
everything I've read indicates that supply is going down or will ... parts pipeline is slowed down ... ?
seems logical/possible even if Subaru Japan manufacturing facilities themselves are not damaged/affected by the quake/tsunami/meltdown ...
#2876 of 3456 Re: supply & demand...? [fendertweed]
Jun 18, 2011 (5:35 pm)
Well, I pick up my 2.5i Limited on Monday. Ended up getting it for $26,600 with the AWP. Not a great price (only $600 off MSRP) but the best I could do. The only other dealership near me wasn't bargaining much either, but they didn't have the color/options I was looking for. I had found a $1600 price break if I bought it in Cleveland, but they didn't have the NY emissions. That would have cost only $300 more, but they didn't have any, couldn't find any nearby they could trade for, and with supply being limited who knows when they would have gotten it. I could have saved $300 but I would have driven almost 2 hours away. In the end, I needed a car, liked the Outback, and didn't see any better pricing coming my way in the near future. I'm just hoping I didn't really get burned.
Looking forward to Monday!
#2877 of 3456 Outback Premium w AWP North Carolina Pricing
Jun 24, 2011 (8:55 pm)
I am new to the world of Subarus and have decided to purchase a 2011 Subaru Outback Premium with all weather package, PZEV, CVT - I am also looking to have a hitch installed in addition to the following extras: body side molding, rear seat back cargo net, rear bumper cover, splash guards, all-weather mats, and wheel locks. The best internet pricing I have gotten is at Southern States in Raleigh at $27,281 out the door price incl taxes and fees ($25,993 before taxes). He also threw in 2yr/24k free maintenance at any Subaru dealership in the nation (I am moving to MA in the next few months).
Has anyone recently bought a similar car? If so, where did you get your deal?
Does anyone think this is a good/bad deal?
I also am trying to decide whether I should trade in my 07 Honda Accord EX-L or private party sell it. If anyone got a great trade-in on their vehicle, I would also like to know.
Looking forward to hearing back! Thank you, in advance, for your help!
#2878 of 3456 Re: Best Price So Far [mikeyp53]
Jun 25, 2011 (8:07 pm)
There is no comparison to a Subaru for the ride quality. We did drive the Sante Fe and then the OutBack. We bought the OB and could not be happier.
#2879 of 3456 2011 Outback Limited
Jun 25, 2011 (8:18 pm)
Bought a 2011 limited with the 3.6 motor. LOve the car so far and it is really quiet! We got the caramel brown and a moonroof but no NAV since most agree it is a waste. I cannot believe how frigin comfortable the seats are! I live in Texas and the AC cools the vehicle almost instantly. Love the Harmon Kardan stereo. A bit disappointed in no memory for the seats since the wife and I use the OB a lot. This vehicle really turns heads.