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Subaru Outback, Wagon, SUV
#2325 of 3392 Re: 2005 Outback XT [ateixeira]
Dec 31, 2009 (8:03 am)
Never owned a Subaru so have no experience with them in rough driving conditions. Would any of you guys skip buying an older Subaru that is in otherwise good shape because it doesn't have stability/traction control? Or is it less important on a car with AWD? One of the reasons we're buying this car is because we need s safer car than our current very old and barely stable Nissan Sentra.
#2326 of 3392 Stability control
Dec 31, 2009 (8:35 am)
It wouldn't bother me, I never owned a car with it until my wife's Lexus about 6 years ago. Both of us were raised in snow country and other than our time in TX have always lived in slippery areas. Although TX had some really bad ice storms during our time there, during which we were smart enough to STAY AT HOME.
OTOH I'd use the lack of stabiltiy control as a negotiation tactic to try to get the seller to knock some more off the price. Make sure that there are good service records, COMPLETE and if it's within a year or 10,000 miles of needing any of the "major" services that they do those or knock 120% of the cost of same off the price. Insist on new tires and no chips in the windscreen too.
#2327 of 3392 Re: Philly Subaru dealers [abz]
Dec 31, 2009 (9:14 am)
I am in Madison, CT. Any tip on CT dealer? I am new to Subaru.
#2328 of 3392 Re: 2005 Outback XT [bruuklin]
Jan 01, 2010 (2:41 pm)
IMO AWD & traction control etc., are almost mutually exclusive ... having one doesn't obviate the need for the other, etc.
I wouldn't make lack of it a deal killer, I had no TC/VDC on any car until I bought my '09 Outback Ltd. last July. It's nice to have, to be sure, but in any case you must realize that AWD will never overcome the laws of physics and it is in no way a free pass to drive less than prudently for conditions.
Good luck on the hunt....
#2329 of 3392 Re: 2005 Outback XT [bruuklin]
Jan 02, 2010 (7:46 am)
in rough driving conditions
Stability control is a plus, absolutely.
But...so is a long-travel suspension that keeps the tires on the ground. Plus AWD. Plus the limited-slip rear diff on many models, prior to the arrival of VDC.
Subarus were traction specialists before stability control even existed.
#2330 of 3392 SF Bay area prices
Jan 02, 2010 (9:27 pm)
Since the inventory of the Outback 2.5i Limited is well......extremely limited here in the bay area I have to order an Outback to get what I want. It seems that most dealers will order one for invoice. Anyone having experience ordering one for less than invoice?
Jan 03, 2010 (8:56 am)
I'm suprised to hear that the supply is limited in the Bay Area. Still, invoice is not a bad price IMO. I'm in the Colorado front range area and the Legacy sales here have been strong since the new one was introduced. Legacy is actually the number one selling sedan in Colorado for the first 10 months of the year.
Even with the strong sales I didn't have any trouble getting one for less than invoice and I know of at least one person who got a few hundred better than I did.
Once I had decided on the color/interior combo they looked to see how many were in the Denver distribution center, picked it up the next day and added the the splash guards, wind deflectors etc. They didn't balk about the price.
#2333 of 3392 Subaru Outback Prem 2.5/CVT - PA/NJ
Jan 04, 2010 (11:04 pm)
First of all, many thanks to all posters here. Your buying experience made it possible for our new Subaru Outback. We bought our Subaru at Becker Subaru, Allentown, PA but we live in New Jersey. For more info, just Google my screen name (allthumbsdiy):
* 2010 Subaru Outback, 4 cylinder, Premium, CVT
* All Weather package with moon roof (Option Code "06")
* Conv / Protect 1B - Wheel arch moldings, splash guards, rear bumper cover (Option code "LN8")
* All Weather floor mats (Option Code "B0A")
* Partial Zero Emission or PZEV -required in PA,NJ,NY
* Destination Charge
Selling Price: $25,826
Discount (under invoice): -$760
Doc fee: $120
PA Transit fee: $5
PA Tire Tax: $5
NJ Sales Tax (7%): $1807.92
NJ DMV Title fee: $60
NJ DMV Registration (plate transfer) fee: $24
I made a very detailed buying experience if anyone's interested... (allthumbsdiy.com/misc-01-buying-a-car.html).
Good luck with your purchase!
#2334 of 3392 Re: Subaru Outback Prem 2.5/CVT - PA/NJ [allthumbsdiy]
Jan 05, 2010 (9:47 am)
In that case, congrats!