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2220 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:48 AM
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HELLOOoo...please, anyone here got a good price (invoice at least or lower than invoice price) for A 2.5i LIMITED MODEL??? Getting ready to buy/lease but no one here seem to help with accurate price info of someone actually buying or lease recently(hopefully from NY, NJ or PA) Anyone knows of how to get it cheaper from some car selling web sites(i heard some people before ~1-2 years ago that they got it cheaper from some sites...but right now I can't get in touch with them...:-/)?
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Replying to: robertwarrior (Nov 09, 2009 2:38 pm) Even if you do not intend to drive 250 miles to pick it up you will still have the lowest documented sale price to throw in the faces of your local guys who will have to either match that price or lose your business. There are greedy dealers who could care less what X dealer is selling their cars for but you don't want to even waste your time with them. Dealers get money from Subaru for EVERY car they sell or lease and also for meeting certain sales goals. Dealers do not want to lose business to their competitors who will get those bonuses instead of them. FYI: Invoice price is not the price the dealer owns the car for. Invoice is the price that the manufacturer thinks the dealer should be able to sell the car for and still make a nice profit. I would guess the Subaru dealers actually own an Outback Limited for at least $1100 under invoice and then get 2% of the MSRP as dealer holdback. A GREAT DEAL would be $1000 under invoice in my opinion.
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Replying to: stoopy (Nov 10, 2009 7:42 am) I agree that $1k under invoice is a great deal but wonder where your net cost information comes from. |
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Replying to: stoopy (Nov 10, 2009 7:42 am) Stoopy - you and I are willing to work a bit for a deal. Some folks are fearful in that regard. They can always go through a reputable broker or contact you for free. 
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Replying to: jayrider (Nov 10, 2009 12:30 pm)
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Replying to: fendertweed (Nov 10, 2009 10:12 am) Subaru Outback Premium 2.5 CVT (MSRP 25990) We can break this down to the following numbers (as noted on their site) Base Vehicle $23,829 Options $0 Regional Ad Fees $222 Destination Fee $695 Then deductions are as follow: Customer Incentives $0 (currently none) Holdbacks/CSI $759 (Subaru pays dealers this once vehicle sold) Dealer Incentives ??? (This is where most dealers profit, especially large volume dealers.) TOTAL $23,987 (or less is the price anybody should pay) Dealer Incentives are based on how many cars dealer sells. Bigger volume dealers will get bigger incentives. This is the reason why dealers at the end of the month try to push sales on many cars as possible. Even if they sell you truly sell under the cost of vehicle, they will profit at the end because sold enough vehicles that month to make large dealer incentives. They can range from few hundred dollars to even high as thousand dollars. I personally was able to negotiate this car for $23 750 (plus title and registration). This tells you they were able to knock off few hundred dollars from the lowest price and still make some money. As a shopper you have to be smart, and shop around. In this economy you should be able to dictate the negotiation. Do not let dealers to manipulate you and sell you based on scare tactics. |
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Replying to: xwesx (Nov 10, 2009 1:19 pm) |
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Replying to: fendertweed (Nov 10, 2009 10:12 am) This is from an email my local dealer sent me. He is very up front with me on how they do business. They are making $500 over ACTUAL cost plus dealer holdback. (in this case $1042.22)
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Replying to: stoopy (Nov 11, 2009 6:05 am) This is about 8.5% less than MSRP. This is what I have been told by many, a good deal on Subaru would be 8% or more off of the MSRP. Keep this in mind and you will know if you got a good or bad deal. And watch out for fees that some dealers are making up. |
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Here is an example of the crap we get in NJ, this is from a supposed Internet Sales Manager......... Due to the competitive environment and lack of inventory that the entire region is suffering from, we are giving out price's only to people coming to the dealership. Although it may be a minor inconvenience to our customers, from our recent and past experience, it's a complete waste of time to talk about something that could feasibly be 12 weeks ago. Due to Subaru's ever changing factory programs, and the high demand for these vehicle's, to be honest, the price today to 12 weeks from now, could very well differ by THOUSANDS of dollars. We will be as competitive as any other dealer, but we need to put pen to paper and get everything in order first. There are certain criteria that need to be justified and unfortunately communicating via e-mail doesn't always cover all the bases. Rather than mislead you, we would rather deal face to face to show our honesty and our sincerity in these matters. Would you bother with these guys, I was there they had their chance. |
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