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Re: A good dealership in NJ? [britgeezer] by sweetsoul
Nov 08, 2009 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: britgeezer (Nov 07, 2009 9:21 pm)

For all those looking for a good dealer in PA area. I ordered my OB from Rafferty Subaru in Newtown Square. I ordered 3 weeks ago so it's still not due in for another 3-5 weeks...so right now I can only speak about the ordering experience.
 
First I went to my local dealer, Welsh Subaru in Limerick , but they said if I ordered a car from them they could not give me the VIP(invoice) price until it came in? Saying that Subaru changes pricing every month??? Then they refused to lock in a price for the extended warranty...wanting $2400 for a 6 yr, 100k mile plan! And then telling me some bogus story about how the price could jump $400 in a month - so they couldn't guarantee me a price. Then we talked about my trade in, they offered me $1500 less than what I wanted and again said they would have to re-evaluate when the ordered car came in - hinting that it could lose significantly more. The whole experience was sad, plus it was the sales manager who fed us all this crap. So I walked away from them and never looked back.
 
Next and final stop - Rafferty Subaru in Newtown Square, PA. I called first and talked to a salesmen. Told them I would pay invoice (we had VIP pricing), that I already knew I would need to order due to the add-ons I wanted, that I would not pay a penny more that $1500 for the extended warranty (Gold 6yr, 100k miles), and that they needed to give me a fair price for my trade-in. They said no problem. I went in they gave me $100 over what I wanted for my trade AND locked in the price, they also locked in the ext warranty price and were able to tell me how much my OB would be, even though I ordered it - shocking right? It was a smooth painless experience. The salesperson I worked with was "Skip". He was very easy going, they all were. They also have an A rating with the BBB. I'll post more in a month or so when I go in to take my new Sube home....can't wait! If you call Skip - tell him Noelle sent you.
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Re: What price should I be looking to get for a 3.6R Limited [britgeezer] by hlt1634
Nov 08, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: britgeezer (Nov 07, 2009 5:13 pm)

PA..other than tax and tags..what would the added costs be?
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To sweetsoul.. by robertwarrior
Nov 08, 2009 (4:51 pm)
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Hey Sweetsoul,
Very curious to know;
-1st of all; Want to know how much exactly "total invoice price" did you pay for your Subi + destination? (docs fees are different form dealers & taxes are also different form state to state...:-/ )
-What is the exact Outback model you got?
-Did you pay the whole thing or you financed your ordered Outback? & if you did Finance; What is the amount of your monthly payments & how much you put down(if you did)? & If finance or lease please; length of your term. What were your Tax, doc, & DM fee?
Thanks.
P.S. To Hit1634, I believe; Destination(if not included in the "Invoice price" or "whatever price you pay") + Document(They all freaking charge this one, hate it & does not make much sense to me! >:-/) + MV(motor vehicle, you don't have to, but if you want them to do it) + of course "whatever gas money" expense especially if you leave far or in another neighboring state..
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recent 2.5i or 2.5i Premium in Colorado? by jhollon
Nov 09, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Any recent purchases of a 2.5i or 2.5i Premium in Colorado? Also any news on new incentives for November? Heading in to drive a 2010 today to see how the CVT feels.
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2010 2.5i limited Outback total Price(of a Recent Lease or Buying)... by robertwarrior
Nov 09, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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HELLOOoo...please, anyone here got a good price (invoice at least or lower than invoice price) for A 2.5i LIMITED MODEL???
Getting ready to buy/lease but no one here seem to help with accurate price info of someone actually buying or lease recently(hopefully from NY, NJ or PA)
Anyone knows of how to get it cheaper from some car selling web sites(i heard some people before ~1-2 years ago that they got it cheaper from some sites...but right now I can't get in touch with them...:-/)?
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Re: 2010 2.5i limited Outback total Price(of a Recent Lease or Buying)... [robertwarrior] by stoopy
Nov 10, 2009 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: robertwarrior (Nov 09, 2009 2:38 pm)

Why do people need advice on how to get a good sale price? Send email quotes to 10 high volume dealers within 250 miles of your home. Pick the lowest 3 price quotes and use them against one another. If dealer X tells you $25,000 then tell dealer Z dealer X offered $25,000, and so on until they say they cannot match dealer X's price. Now you have your absolute lowest price.
 
Even if you do not intend to drive 250 miles to pick it up you will still have the lowest documented sale price to throw in the faces of your local guys who will have to either match that price or lose your business. There are greedy dealers who could care less what X dealer is selling their cars for but you don't want to even waste your time with them.
 
Dealers get money from Subaru for EVERY car they sell or lease and also for meeting certain sales goals. Dealers do not want to lose business to their competitors who will get those bonuses instead of them.
 
FYI: Invoice price is not the price the dealer owns the car for. Invoice is the price that the manufacturer thinks the dealer should be able to sell the car for and still make a nice profit. I would guess the Subaru dealers actually own an Outback Limited for at least $1100 under invoice and then get 2% of the MSRP as dealer holdback. A GREAT DEAL would be $1000 under invoice in my opinion.
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Re: 2010 2.5i limited Outback total Price(of a Recent Lease or Buying)... [stoopy] by fendertweed
Nov 10, 2009 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: stoopy (Nov 10, 2009 7:42 am)

I'm curious whether you have any current fact-based information behind the guess that the actual dealer cost is at least $1100 under invoice?
 
I agree that $1k under invoice is a great deal but wonder where your net cost information comes from.
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Re: 2010 2.5i limited Outback total Price(of a Recent Lease or Buying)... [stoopy] by jayrider
Nov 10, 2009 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: stoopy (Nov 10, 2009 7:42 am)

By expanding your search to 250 miles you really increase your chances of getting the best deal. I don't have a problem with that but some folks don't want to put in the energy to do that. A good example is if you look online for a cpo used car you will see the exact same car/miles model priced as much as 10k difference nationally. I can fly in -- stay overnight - and drive home for that kind of cdeal. Could have it shipped but I'd want to kick the tires and check things out before I'd buy. Even 2-3k would be worth the trip. New cars aren't going to have that spread but different areas can offer you the leverage to do as well as possible.
Stoopy - you and I are willing to work a bit for a deal. Some folks are fearful in that regard. They can always go through a reputable broker or contact you for free.
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Re: 2010 2.5i limited Outback total Price(of a Recent Lease or Buying)... [jayrider] by xwesx
Nov 10, 2009 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: jayrider (Nov 10, 2009 12:30 pm)

You might be surprised about that new car spread - it really depends on the area. I purchased my '10 Forester in Seattle for $2,300 less than it was being sold locally (Fairbanks, Alaska). The local dealer just has a "you buy from us, we don't sell to you" attitude. I spent less than $400 to get it home, plus three days of time.

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