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Subaru Outback Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Doc fees? Too high? [macdougal28] by vrm
Nov 05, 2009 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: macdougal28 (Nov 05, 2009 6:22 am)

Hi,
As another post suggested, focus on your out-the-door price.
 
When you make the offer to the dealer, tell him "this includes the doc fees".
Let the dealer figure out what is acceptable.
 
My opinion is that doc fees should be called "guaranteed profit". It is 100% profit for the dealer. It is upto consumers to fight these fees and walk away from these dealers.
 
Can you believe that some dealers are asking for $600 in doc fees in Virginia?
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Re: Doc fees? Too high? [vrm] by ateixeira
Nov 05, 2009 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: vrm (Nov 05, 2009 8:32 am)

Agreed on your strategy.
 
And here is a tip - in MD that fee is limited to $99. I shopped and found $400 fees in VA, vs. $99 fees in MD.
 
I basically asked them to e-mail me an out-the-door-price, saying I need to write a Cashier's Check for the exact amount. It was accurate, even down to the penny. It also takes pressure off for the add-ons they try to pad pricing with.
 
"Whatever you can give me for this exact price" then point to the check. Of course that requires that you either pay cash or arrange financing on your own.
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Re: Doc fees? Too high? [ateixeira] by vrm
Nov 05, 2009 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 05, 2009 8:42 am)

Thanks for the tip. Maryland dealers are getting a lot of business from Virginia.
 
The dealers in Virginia have become too greedy. $400 to $600 in doc fees is unacceptable. I am ready to drive all the way to Pennsylvania - anything to avoid junk and bogus charges.
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Re: Doc fees? Too high? [vrm] by ateixeira
Nov 05, 2009 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Nov 05, 2009 1:15 pm)

Funny thing is they used to have better prices. In 1998 I went to VA to buy my Subie.
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Re: Doc fees? Too high? [vrm] by xwesx
Nov 05, 2009 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Nov 05, 2009 1:15 pm)

I have not paid any documentation fees on my last two Subaru vehicles. Locally, we have some dealers (not necessarily Subaru) that include them, others that do not. I have yet to seriously consider buying a vehicle from a dealer who does.
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Re: Doc fees? Too high? [xwesx] by ateixeira
Nov 05, 2009 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Nov 05, 2009 2:26 pm)

I can't find one that doesn't.
 
But...didn't matter, I shopped out-the-door price, fees included.
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Re: 2010 Outback - Maryland, Virginia or West Virginia [vrm] by rkrat
Nov 05, 2009 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: vrm (Nov 04, 2009 6:59 pm)

VRM,
 
Thanks. Yes, I did get the remote engine starter along with the moonroof and nav, puddle lights, rearview mirror with Homelink, all the cargo nets, security sensor upgrade, XM satellite radio and protection package to include wheel locks, rear bumper cover, splash guards, wheel arch moldings, and all-weather mats.
 
I have only tried the remote engine starter once this week since getting my car. Once you unlock the car the engine will stop and you need to use the key to start the ignition again. I think it is more for warming the car in winter or cooling it in summer than anything else. I usually drive from my garage at home to my garage at work and back home again, only stopping off to buy groceries, so I don't know how often I will really use the remote engine starter.
 
I have never had all these goodies in a vehicle so I got a lot of stuff - probably more than what I need or will use on a regular basis. I will know better with my next new vehicle purchase - probably 10 years from now!.
 
I have not yet had the chance to read through all my documentation to figure out how to set everything up and how it all works but I'm sure once I do, I will use everything more regularly.
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Re: 2010 Outback - Maryland, Virginia or West Virginia [rkrat] by surrfurtom
Nov 05, 2009 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: rkrat (Nov 03, 2009 3:05 pm)

Stolhman treated us good. Bought my first new Subaru from Doris in 1987. It was a Champagne GL10 Turbo with all the power options including SR, air suspension where you could raise the car on demand by several inches. $18197 less $2837 "special concession" for total of $15360. Owned it for almost 7 years. Still buying Subs. Still have the stickers and invoices... lol.
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Re: 2010 Outback - Maryland, Virginia or West Virginia [surrfurtom] by morin2
Nov 05, 2009 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Nov 05, 2009 6:02 pm)

As for MD dealers, we have bought "his & her's" Subarus from both Fitzmall at White Flint (my 09 Outback) and Heritage Subaru in Owings Mills (her 07 Forester). Perfectly satisfied with the sales experiences at both places.
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discrepancies for MSRP? by macdougal28
Nov 06, 2009 (7:32 am)
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Still trying to figure out what my offer will be, but as I do my research I notice most web sites like autotrader, edmunds, etc. list the base 2.5i w/CVT for MSRP of 23,990 (the manual trans. is 22,990). So why in New England is the MSRP $1000 higher on both, with the 2.5i base w/CVT 24,990? Should I be considering this profit to the dealer and figuring that into my offer?

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