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Subaru Outback, Wagon, SUV
#2078 of 3458 2010 Outback Long island, NY
Nov 04, 2009 (7:26 pm)
I just recently purchased a 3.6 R premium from metric subaru
on Long Island. I also got the remote start. All in all I paid 29,500 and I will always recommend the dealership for purchasing and service. As for the car itself, I like it a lot, mostly. Great acceleration, VERY QUIET as compared to my 2004 forester. My quirks with it are the rear defrost is hard to find at night. Im not 100% sold on the electric brake, and why the fixed side mirrors? other than that a pretty decent car.
Nov 05, 2009 (6:22 am)
Hi - I'm in the process of negotiating an offer on a 2.5i base model w/CVT. Here in the MSRP is 24,990, (but I've seen a lower MSRP in other states). I haven't made an offer, but asked the dealer what their fees are - only fees would be doc fees for $380 (and tax, title, reg). Those fees seem ridiculously inflated to me, my state does not have a cap on these fees. His first offer was 24,660 and 2500-3000 for my trade in ('02 Forester L, manual trans 96K miles.) This doesn't sound anywhere close to where I want to be. I can't go down to PA, VA, MD like a previous poster suggested. Any advice? Comments on the doc fees?
#2080 of 3458 Re: Doc fees? Too high? [macdougal28]
Nov 05, 2009 (6:53 am)
IMO, those doc fees are a gouge. Rather than push on the doc fees explicitly, I would suggest you use that to adjust the total that you want to pay (price + fees - trade) and try to get to that, rather than negotiate each of the pieces.
But it sounds like you have bigger problems than the doc fees. What about other dealers in your area, instead of going out of state?
#2081 of 3458 re: Doc fees? Too high?
Nov 05, 2009 (7:01 am)
Only one base model in the entire state. Just a handful of premiums. The neighboring states have just as little inventory. I don't need to buy now, but will inventory really get better as the holidays approach?
#2082 of 3458 Re: tried another dealer [trome]
Nov 05, 2009 (7:09 am)
Hi trome, sorry about your experiences. These dealers are unbelievable! Plus they're giving Subaru a bad reputation The Honda CRV is certainly a good alternate and maybe you'll find a better dealer to work with. Best of luck to you, let us know what you end up buying and how the experience was ultimately. Good Luck!
#2083 of 3458 re: Doc fees? Too high? [macdougal28]
Nov 05, 2009 (7:15 am)
macdougal28 if you are not in a hurry use that to your advantage. Let your local dealers know via email that you are interested and that this is the price you are willing to pay ex: $24,000 plus $150 in doc fees. Tell them you are not in a hurry and that the first dealer who is willing to meet these prices will earn your business. Trust me, they will find you a base model or order you one if they want the sale. And then follow up with them toward the end of each month to see if they are willing to bite yet. They are usually hungrier at the end of the month.
For your trade-in...see if you can obtain the autotrader.com guarantee and check if any local dealers will honor it, that's the best way to secure your trade in (or try selling it yourself).
Also, overstock.com now has a spot where you can enter the info on the car you want and they provide guaranteed pricing from local or semi-local dealers. The pricing was pretty good and it might give you an idea of what price you should be asking for. Hope that helps! Good luck and shop wisely
#2084 of 3458 re: Doc fees? Too high? [sweetsoul]
Nov 05, 2009 (7:52 am)
Thanks sweetsoul - good advice!
#2085 of 3458 Re: Doc fees? Too high? [macdougal28]
Nov 05, 2009 (8:12 am)
i have posted earlier on this topic. The base model CVT (no additional options), i got this price; MSRP: $24,690. Offered at $22,890 (destination included) excludes tax and registration. This price was offered without any real negotiation (possibly could go lower). The premium model OB price was around thousand dollars more.
Be carefully today most dealers are trying to squeeze as much as possible out of you.
They try to use this temporary shortage, and make big money. If you could wait that would be the best option for you. I have been looking for a while and there are some crazy things happening, I decided to wait until the end of this month or even next month.
Dealers have some ridicules stories to tell just just to sell the car, makes you feel like this is it, if I do not buy now this car will be gone. Guess what, they will get more of the same cars.This is not selling until supplies lasts, because they keep ordering more.
Winter months and the Holidays are coming soon, dealers will be seeing less and less people in their showrooms, this can be used in your advantage if you can wait. End of November and end of December are generally the best times of year to buy cars. You will see some steep discounts I grantee you.
Most people feel buying a car is a game, and you have to play it smart.
#2086 of 3458 Re: 2010 Outback Long island, NY [lirrmike]
Nov 05, 2009 (8:26 am)
Did the dealer install the remote start? Does the remote start work as advertised? Please provide feedback. Thanks!
#2087 of 3458 Re: Doc fees? Too high? [macdougal28]
Nov 05, 2009 (8:32 am)
As another post suggested, focus on your out-the-door price.
When you make the offer to the dealer, tell him "this includes the doc fees".
Let the dealer figure out what is acceptable.
My opinion is that doc fees should be called "guaranteed profit". It is 100% profit for the dealer. It is upto consumers to fight these fees and walk away from these dealers.
Can you believe that some dealers are asking for $600 in doc fees in Virginia?