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#1895 of 3392 Outback - No Cash for this Clunker
by doidoadiesel
Jul 25, 2009 (10:57 am)
Salesman at John Howard Subaru in Morgantown WV said if we are doing cash for clunkers we are going on STICKER price ONLY!!!! Sticker Price was $24,434 for a 2009 2.5 i 4 manual transmission, which was about $5,000 more than the TMV from Edmunds of $19,324 - So Cash for Clunkers at John Howard will net you Negative $500 dollars on the deal if you get $4500 for your clunker!!!! Hmmm It was easy to pass on this deal as we were basically about $10,000 apart from 'Hello'. It will be curious to see if other dealers take the same tactic and jack up the retail value to screw the customer out of any incentive to buy.
#1896 of 3392 Re: Outback - No Cash for this Clunker [doidoadiesel]
by fendertweed
Jul 25, 2009 (11:21 am)
I'll let you know... I'm picking up my '09 OB Ltd. Monday morning with a "CARS" credit as the "trade-in". We worked out the net price of the OB first ($25.7 OTD, about $5050 below MSRP+taxes etc.), then discussed either trading it in or doing the CARS program, which would give me similar/slightly more than dealer trade (same as CarMax would give me for the car)... dealer knows it's a CARS deal and all I had to do was put down a deposit to hold the car 'til the program details were in place. If they bump the price up on me the deal is off but I don't expect them to do that.
Besides, I can always take my car to the Honda dealer and get $5k for it ($4,500 + 500 they're adding) rather than $3,500 if I buy a Fit, LOL.
Jon
#1899 of 3392 Not a crook but lost me as a customer
by doidoadiesel
Jul 26, 2009 (5:01 am)
He would have given me the rebate - but in essence given me 0 dollars for my car as a clunker. But since they already have a very high sticker price ($5,000) above TMV price - they are under no legal requirements to sell you the car any cheaper under cash for clunkers. No deals or haggling on price - no comparisons with TMV or Fitzmall allowed, no buying at invoice plus. It was sticker price - take it or leave it. I could have gotten just as good a deal without cash for clunkers from this deal so I left it. This dealership just recently had their Chrysler dealership pulled from them, and they blame the govt. I had to hear a littany of reasons why the government was wrong to place all the burden on the dealers in C4C. They weren't punishing the government though - they were punishing me. So I just have to move on to find a dealer who thinks the burden is worth the benefit. Not John Howard.
#1900 of 3392 Re: Not a crook but lost me as a customer [doidoadiesel]
by ateixeira
Jul 29, 2009 (10:50 am)
They won't be selling many cars. Just go elsewhere. Dealers are indy so I'm sure another Subaru dealer will offer better terms.
#1901 of 3392 Re: Outback - No Cash for this Clunker [fendertweed]
by fendertweed
Jul 30, 2009 (9:11 am)
we closed the deal Monday, at a price actually lower by about $100 or so than quoted ($25.7 OTD, about $5050 below MSRP+taxes etc.) ... and they took my '01 Audi as a trade not a CARS vehicle ... same net for me either way.
Jon
#1902 of 3392 Outback 2010 3.6R limited
by jeff47
Jul 31, 2009 (11:42 pm)
Received dealer quote for the Outback 2010 3.6 R Limited with additional options of roof mounted bike rack, homelink and bluetooth for a total of 34,000(essentially the MSRP without those options)
Does that seem like a good deal?
Aug 01, 2009 (9:30 am)
Yesterday I tagged along with my son as he bought a PZEV Charcoal Grey 2010 Outback Premium CVT with moon roof, exactly what he wanted from his previous research. He parlayed $4500 C4C, VIP, and Subaru 4.9%... “sweeeet”. Lithia Subaru in Reno was really no-hassle with heads going up and down almost always on both sides of the deal equation.
In addition to a couple of Outbacks, we were able to test drive Automatic and Manual versions of the Forester. All test drives had three good sized dudes, A/C was on, and pulling an uphill freeway grade just north of town. It seemed the Outback CVT was just a hair better pulling that grade and was quieter doing it. No question parking lot maneuverability and turning ability of the Forester was better. But in our case the EPA 24 mpg of the Outback over the 22 mpg Foresters was the deal breaker because we needed 23+ mpg to get the full $4500 C4C.
The C4C mania at the dealer lot was something to behold. Customers were all over the place with all sales people fully engaged, scurrying around at a high speed pace. I believe some customers were briefly waiting for assistance. When we left the dealership about 10 PM, a couple of hours past posted closing time, customers were still waiting around for their deals to close too. Seems to me that most of those customers were like us, people who had been practicing “cheaper to keep her” mentality…. until now. I had been to that same dealer a few weeks earlier for service work on my 100K Forester and noticed the showroom and lot was dead on a late Friday afternoon.
Have Fun,
Ted