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I may be getting close, too... by fendertweed
Jul 06, 2009 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jul 06, 2009 1:33 pm)

My '01 Audi A6 continues to vex us w/ CELs ... after a new coolant temp sensor, new cat, and new O2 sensors since last Sept., still intermittent codes that relate to a known issue w/ the ECU throwing false codes. I'm willing to pay the dealer to "reflash" the ECU with updated programming that was the subj. of a TSB, but doubt I'm willing to spring for a new ECU or even rebuilt if this doesn't work.
 
But of course in the meantime the supply of '09 OBs dwindles and I'm not very interested in a '10. Definitely want the SE for the features, don't really want the Ltd. primarily b/c of the poor A/C I hear about but I do like the leather & sunroof ... definitely do not want the built-in NAV.
 
I may be picking from among the slim pickins' later this month, we'll see.
 
BTW I confirmed w/ my longtime trusted indep. shop that the Audi CVT, to which I am told the new Subie CVT is related (same belts? I'd love to know if it's the same TCU or other parts too) was not a reliable unit and there were some very expensive TCU failures ($2-4k repair costs). So I'm wary of the new CVT, as I am of any new technology til I see it's track record for reliability.
 
jc
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Re: New 2.5i Limited [1stin10] by snowinwind
Jul 06, 2009 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jul 06, 2009 1:33 pm)

Hi, 1stin10, thank you so much for sharing your experience. I am in the process of buying a Limited as well. Contacted local dealers through email, all except one just asked me to call them. The one price is about $4000 off the MSRP.
 
I have a quick newbie question. How did you get your initial price from the MD dealer from Cars.com? Did you contact them by email? All prices I saw at Cars.com are MSRP, right?
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Outback SE Pricing in Seattle by bunz
Jul 07, 2009 (6:47 am)
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Going to be buying an Outback SE in Seattle (and) north area in the next 30 days. What OTD can I expect? Any Subaru dealers I should avoid?
 
Thanks
 
Bunz
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Re: New 2.5i Limited [1stin10] by abt1
Jul 07, 2009 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jul 06, 2009 1:33 pm)

Thanks 1stin10,
That is some great advice. I am trying to do research on how to get the best deal and I find alot of conflicting info. It gets confusing! I will keep this thread updated, to get more advice and to also help out others with my eperience.
 
Al
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Re: New 2.5i Limited [snowinwind] by 1stin10
Jul 07, 2009 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: snowinwind (Jul 06, 2009 7:27 pm)

Hi, snowinwind!
 
If I were you, I would not call any of the dealers who did not offer a price. Just wait a bit, and they will likely come back to you fairly soon, though I have to say that the end of month pressure to meet their sales quota undoubtedly encouraged the dealers with whom I interacted.
 
I would begin to negotiate with the one dealer who did provide a price. $4K off MSRP is pretty good, so to me it shows he's serious about bargaining, but there's still a lot of room to come down.
 
I just did a search for 09 Limiteds on cars.com, and prices are dropping. Selection is too, but bargains are out there if you're willing to be flexible. I don't know where you're located, but I found prices at Heuberger in Colorado Springs, CO for just above $24K - so similar to the price you were quoted locally - and I found a couple at DullesMotors in Leesburg, VA for even less ... one was about $23,600. There were also competitive prices at a couple of MD dealers and one in NH. So as you can see, these prices are certainly not MSRP. MSRP for a Limited is $28,295. These prices undoubtedly all include the $2K cash rebate, but even still, they are good prices. And it's from there that you want to begin your negotiations, not from MSRP or even dealer invoice.
 
I would go back to the dealer who gave you the quote by emailing him a link to one of these dealers with an even lower price. Ask him to beat it. When he does, tell him this is a pretty good price, and you'll be very tempted to buy IF he includes .... the destination fee (a $695 value) and cargo nets or something else you really want. If he agrees, I'd accept the deal and take a copy of the email down to the dealership with you so you have the offer and the corresponding VIN# in writing. If he doesn't, I would consider shopping the quote he did give you to the other local dealers who told you to call them. Instead of callling, email his quote and ask them to beat the price and add in a goodie or two. Also, it's important to give all of these guys a timeframe. Tell them clearly you will be buying a car by close of business Saturday, July 11 or whatever date in the very near future so that you create an enhanced sense of urgency on their part.
 
Hope this helped. Good luck!
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Re: New 2.5i Limited [1stin10] by snowinwind
Jul 08, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jul 07, 2009 10:15 pm)

1stin10, thank you so much for the help. I will give it a try and update the result here.
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Re: Outback SE models still available at $20K or less? [outandback] by outandback
Jul 08, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: outandback (Jul 06, 2009 2:01 pm)

Just wanted to let folks know that Heuberger Motors updated their prices after my July 6 post so there is no longer a discrepancy for Outback Internet special. I also see that they change their prices often, so although they are higher as I write this, yesterday I saw they advertised 2009 Outbacks for $20,070 for a manual transmission SE and $20,952 (& up) for an SE auto.
 
Good benchmarks for comparison shopping.
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Thoughts on this deal? by brentp
Jul 09, 2009 (8:52 am)
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We have decided to get a new 09 Outback within the next 6 weeks (Toyota lease to expire in Aug). Started to contact Subaru dealers to see where we would be.
 
Looking for a Model 9DD with no options in the New England area. MSRP - $25,790. (with PZEV - most inventory in NE has this).
 
So far, best offer is at $21,000. plus a $225 dealer doc fee. Others (so far) are in the $22K+ range. This represents $4.79K under MSRP, . . . and about $524. under invoice + holdback.
 
Question/Opinions:

Good offer? Can I get more?
 
Is it likely rebate will increase in Aug? - If so, care to guess how much?
 
Fitzmall lists Outback SEs (9DD) with a slightly higher MSRP for a slightly lower internet price - how is this?
 
How is this dealer making money with price below what we all think he/she really paid for the car?
 
Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
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Outback SE Pricing in Seattle [bunz] by rdy
Jul 09, 2009 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: bunz (Jul 07, 2009 6:47 am)

Looking for SE Pricing in SEA area
 
Contact Joe Spitz. He's the most knowledgeable
and straight dealing.
linky here
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Re: Thoughts on this deal? [brentp] by 1stin10
Jul 09, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: brentp (Jul 09, 2009 8:52 am)

Looks pretty good to me. Heuberger has 17 of these listed on their website. Based on what they show, you're definitely in the pocket. As for Fitz' higher MSRP, look closely at the car descriptions. Fitz' may have some accessory already pre-installed. But to me, MSRP is totally irrelevant. All that matters is invoice - to get *some* idea about dealer cost - and the bottom line offer price. Regarding your last question, no one really knows what is at stake for the dealer in a car transaction. In addition to holdback, at this point, with redesigned 10s starting to arrive, there have got to be all sorts of manufacturer incentives to the dealer to move the existing product. Or maybe he agrees even to lose money on an individual transaction b/c he knows he can make it up and more in other ways.

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