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Re: Subaru Dealer MAAP [marsound] by abchin486
Jun 04, 2009 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: marsound (Jun 03, 2009 8:00 pm)

he means if there is no promotional financing.
 
If you just finance through the dealer with no promotions, the dealer has authority to give you any rate they want. Generally, they get a loan from a bank, then they can add another 2% for themselves.That means if you qualify for a 6% loan, then they could sell you the loan at 8% and pocket the 2%. This is why dealers are not swayed by cash buyers anymore. Not only do they get that extra % rate to themselves, but they also get a commision for it.
 
You can still do it through the dealer, just know what % rates you can qualify for. If you got pre-approved for a 5% loan (or you already have the loan check), tell them when you get down to the financing aspect of the deal. I am willing to bet that once you are about to walk away b/c you do not meet on financing terms (or you just show them your approval and say you will use that), they weill meet it or even beat the % rate. If they cannot meet or beat it, you still win because you can just hand over the loan check.
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When to buy? by 1stin10
Jun 06, 2009 (10:53 am)
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Hello, I am about to purchase my first vehicle in nearly 10 years - live in Chicago and have been able to get by using public transit, car sharing and the occasional rental, but needs have changed - and I am strongly considering the Outback 2.5i Ltd. Am targeting a very low mileage '09 or possibly '08, but will also consider buying new IF the deal proves good enough. Given the 2010 redesign, it seems new '09s will increasingly become a real value. The current $2K rebate and promotional financing of 2.9% for 36 mos or 3.9% for 48 mos are attractive. My question: should I try to close the transaction at the end of June (end of quarter as well as month) or wait further into the summer? Not sure what is prime time for model year close. I really would like to make the purchase sooner vs later, but as someone who has been without my own car for 10 years, I can certainly be patient if it means saving myself decent money. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Re: When to buy? [1stin10] by fendertweed
Jun 06, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jun 06, 2009 10:53 am)

the end of the month is always a very good time to buy, end of qtr probably as good or better ... my guess, and it's just a guess, is that you're not going to save much by waiting and it's possible the price of a used '09 may bump up if folks see the '10s (higher price w/ less content than in '09 from what I can see w/ the pricing games being played) and figure a used '09 for a bit less is attractive.
 
No one knows for sure, but of course the selection of '09s will dwindle ... good luck.
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Re: When to buy? [fendertweed] by abchin486
Jun 06, 2009 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: fendertweed (Jun 06, 2009 12:13 pm)

For a new car, yeah, the end of the month is def a good time, but you can get teh same price regardless if you do research and know what you want to pay. right now, it does not matter when you buy, dealers just wants the stuff off the lot. By waiting till the end of the month, the dealer will reach their bottom line quicker and they will do it with less resistance because they have quotas to meet. You can still get that same price if you go in the beginning of the month, you just are going to have to fight harder for it.
 
For a used, if they do not sell it, it wil just go to an auction. There is no rush to get rid of them (but they stil need to sell them). If you see a used one you want, just try and get it. If you see that it has been sitting on teh lot for a while, then keep pestering them for the price you want.
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Re: When to buy? [abchin486] by ateixeira
Jun 08, 2009 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: abchin486 (Jun 06, 2009 1:10 pm)

Adding to the good advice above...
 
I definitely agree that selection dwindles, so wait only if you are flexible about color and options.
 
The other thing, which happened to me, is that a rebate may increase on the first of the month. So if it's $2000 now and goes up to $2500 on July 1, you may miss out on a bigger rebate.
 
Happened to me with an MX-5 purchase in March.
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Re: When to buy? [ateixeira] by 1stin10
Jun 08, 2009 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 08, 2009 8:14 am)

Thanks, everyone, for the input. Sorry to hear that you missed out on the better rebate on your MX-5, ateixeira. With regard to rebates, does anyone have any memory of what Subaru did about rebates last summer? I realize we're in a different marketplace at this point, but I'm just curious to know the history.
 
Also, I would like to learn more about how a dealer decides to send something in his used inventory to auction. Seems like he would need to be desperate to do that since I can't imagine he could make very much. I recently spotted online one used car that, according to the posted CarFax report, has been for sale since early March. They list it for slightly under $500 more than what I'm willing to pay OTD, excluding TTL. So I'll be curious to see if they're willing to deal or let it go to auction.
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Re: When to buy? [1stin10] by ateixeira
Jun 08, 2009 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jun 08, 2009 11:28 am)

Can't hurt to ask. Sounds like it's been collecting dust.
 
I wrote a letter to Mazda and at least they sent me a gift card. Oh well.
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Re: When to buy? [1stin10] by fendertweed
Jun 09, 2009 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jun 08, 2009 11:28 am)

I can't say for sure re: when they auction off a used car ... fwiw, we bought my wife's CPO '05 Toyota Matrix XRS (loaded little rocket ship) from a Toyota dealer who had it on the lot for about 4 months or so.
 
The "internet" price we bought it (just below the Edmunds price for a CPO) at was nearly $2,500 less than the price on the sticker on the lot IIRC.
 
I'd just go in and make an offer (start a bit below where you want to end up to give yourself some room).
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Re: When to buy? [fendertweed] by abchin486
Jun 10, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: fendertweed (Jun 09, 2009 5:09 am)

Auctions are last resort. Usually, by the time it goes to auction, it has been determined that they are not able to sell the car. they will take a loss on it most likely.
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Re: 2.5i Limited Demo Price [ateixeira] by zilch
Jun 13, 2009 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 19, 2009 7:55 am)

"It should be discounted at least 10%, more if the miles are higher. $21-22k seems "about right. "
 
um, this is the deal. you can always get 10% off any new car. so why buy a demo for nearly no discount.
 
funny, carmax sells used current-year models for more than one can buy a new one with discount.

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