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Re: News on any new rebates? [rdy] by glitch1
Jun 03, 2009 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: rdy (Jun 02, 2009 4:30 pm)

Thanks for the info on the dealers. I do have the best quote so far from Carr on an Outback, but it's still not low enough for me to take the car over the CRV I am looking at. But yea, I am done with Royal Moore, as I did not appreciate the sales tactics they tried to pull.
 
On that note (regarding my decision between CRV and Outback), it seems like with the manufacturer rebates from other makes like Subaru, Honda is becoming a bit overpriced in this market. I am seeing very few people getting cars for significantly below invoice on them.
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Re: News on any new rebates? [glitch1] by xwesx
Jun 03, 2009 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: glitch1 (Jun 03, 2009 7:40 am)

You might consider contacting Carter Subaru in Seattle for a price comparison. I am not sure what number would come back, but I purchased a car there about a year and a half ago, and the price quoted to me over the phone knocked the socks off anything I had received elsewhere, even after haggling with the other dealerships. I ended up purchasing the car while still in Fairbanks, received all the documentation overnight, signed, returned it, received the MCO (manufacturer's certificate of origin), and picked up my Alaska license plates before heading south to get the car. All of that took only three days and did not cost me anything extra (except the licensing fee directly to Alaska DMV).
 
Anyway, it was a good experience for me, so I certainly recommend an email or phone call to get a price. If you tell them the exact car you want, you should be able to get an OTD price immediately.
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Re: Subaru Dealer MAAP [marsound] by abchin486
Jun 03, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: marsound (Jun 02, 2009 10:53 pm)

hahaha....it's a game. The internet thing used to be a a gift for consumers, but dealers are now resisting. You can only do it for so long until they figure out how to fight back. It is how they make their living after all....best way is to put in your offer and go through the counter offer phase either in person or over phone or internet. You just use teh internet to see who you think will give you the price you want. They will not just give you a good price, you have to kind of bite them for it.
 
Anyways, every car company has atleast one car that is selling with no problem. With Toyota, it seems to be the Camry (lots of dealer have exhausted their 09 supply), with Honda it seems to be the Civic. With Subrau, it is not the Outback, it's the Impreza. Lost of dealersips in the New England area only have around 9 or less left. The dealership down the street from me only 2 left. But most of the dealerships still have lots of other Subarus left. ANways, lowest I got (New england) was 18.9K + TTL, but I have seen them in ads for less.
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Re: News on any new rebates? [xwesx] by glitch1
Jun 03, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Jun 03, 2009 9:23 am)

Thanks for the suggestion on Carter in Seattle! I will give them a try. I do make it up there sometimes, so it's not unreasonable for me to pick up a car there.
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Re: Subaru Dealer MAAP [rdy] by marsound
Jun 03, 2009 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: rdy (Jun 03, 2009 7:32 am)

Do I need to go in and wave the cash around?
No, they would rather you finance
 
rdy, I notice that in your excellent post on car buying, you say to never finance through the dealer. Would mind explaining why?
 
The 2.9% that Subaru is offering is pretty tempting...
 
Thanks for all the great info.
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Re: Subaru 2.9% buydown [marsound] by rdy
Jun 03, 2009 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: marsound (Jun 03, 2009 8:00 pm)

The 2.9% that Subaru is offering is pretty tempting...
 
Ah, I was unaware of manufacturer supported finance.
Subaru are buying down the rate. That's unbeatable in the regular marketplace, and the only time one should consider buying money at a car store.
Never finance beyond 48 mo. Preferably 36 mo.
 
Beware - Oftentimes they attach conditions like 'Rate only applies on dealer approved unit cap cost (selling price) or some such language)
 
Essential to know your FICO going in...dealerships will often tell applicants they don't qualify but they can offer you a wonderful rate of xx%.
So know your credit union or bank pre approved loan rate in the back of your mind, for true apples to apples.
 
Personally it would be the Subaru of America 2.9% deal or nothing. I would never consider any third party dealer finance co. It will cost you more in nickel and dime fees and gotcha's etc than your own source - guaranteed. Only folks without options finance at dealerships.
 
Dealerships typically make between 1% - 4% on money.
That's a huge spread over a 48 mo term.
Did I say never finance beyond 48 mo ? Preferably 36 mo.
Like every other contract, read the fine print.
 
 
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Re: Subaru Dealer MAAP [marsound] by abchin486
Jun 04, 2009 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: marsound (Jun 03, 2009 8:00 pm)

he means if there is no promotional financing.
 
If you just finance through the dealer with no promotions, the dealer has authority to give you any rate they want. Generally, they get a loan from a bank, then they can add another 2% for themselves.That means if you qualify for a 6% loan, then they could sell you the loan at 8% and pocket the 2%. This is why dealers are not swayed by cash buyers anymore. Not only do they get that extra % rate to themselves, but they also get a commision for it.
 
You can still do it through the dealer, just know what % rates you can qualify for. If you got pre-approved for a 5% loan (or you already have the loan check), tell them when you get down to the financing aspect of the deal. I am willing to bet that once you are about to walk away b/c you do not meet on financing terms (or you just show them your approval and say you will use that), they weill meet it or even beat the % rate. If they cannot meet or beat it, you still win because you can just hand over the loan check.
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When to buy? by 1stin10
Jun 06, 2009 (10:53 am)
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Hello, I am about to purchase my first vehicle in nearly 10 years - live in Chicago and have been able to get by using public transit, car sharing and the occasional rental, but needs have changed - and I am strongly considering the Outback 2.5i Ltd. Am targeting a very low mileage '09 or possibly '08, but will also consider buying new IF the deal proves good enough. Given the 2010 redesign, it seems new '09s will increasingly become a real value. The current $2K rebate and promotional financing of 2.9% for 36 mos or 3.9% for 48 mos are attractive. My question: should I try to close the transaction at the end of June (end of quarter as well as month) or wait further into the summer? Not sure what is prime time for model year close. I really would like to make the purchase sooner vs later, but as someone who has been without my own car for 10 years, I can certainly be patient if it means saving myself decent money. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Re: When to buy? [1stin10] by fendertweed
Jun 06, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: 1stin10 (Jun 06, 2009 10:53 am)

the end of the month is always a very good time to buy, end of qtr probably as good or better ... my guess, and it's just a guess, is that you're not going to save much by waiting and it's possible the price of a used '09 may bump up if folks see the '10s (higher price w/ less content than in '09 from what I can see w/ the pricing games being played) and figure a used '09 for a bit less is attractive.
 
No one knows for sure, but of course the selection of '09s will dwindle ... good luck.
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Re: When to buy? [fendertweed] by abchin486
Jun 06, 2009 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: fendertweed (Jun 06, 2009 12:13 pm)

For a new car, yeah, the end of the month is def a good time, but you can get teh same price regardless if you do research and know what you want to pay. right now, it does not matter when you buy, dealers just wants the stuff off the lot. By waiting till the end of the month, the dealer will reach their bottom line quicker and they will do it with less resistance because they have quotas to meet. You can still get that same price if you go in the beginning of the month, you just are going to have to fight harder for it.
 
For a used, if they do not sell it, it wil just go to an auction. There is no rush to get rid of them (but they stil need to sell them). If you see a used one you want, just try and get it. If you see that it has been sitting on teh lot for a while, then keep pestering them for the price you want.

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