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Replying to: glitch1 (Jun 02, 2009 10:59 am) RM is an awful dealership. They lied to me continuously even when I proved them wrong. They don't care. Gresham and Wentworth are in market denial. Hannah is hard core, but they will deal if you know your stuff. Carr is probably your best bet if you can stand the pressure. Let me know if I can help you further.
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Replying to: glitch1 (Jun 02, 2009 7:58 am) Thank you for your recent e-mail to Subaru of America, Inc. We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. I received the June 2009 incentives this morning and the incentive offers on the 2009 Outback for the month of June are the same as those we offered in May. |
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Replying to: rdy (Jun 02, 2009 8:03 am) I've been shooting for this price (with CA taxes I'd be happy with 21.5-22k OTD) but no one will budge from $20,600 after rebate = $23k OTD. I'm getting stories like: "The time for the best deals has passed. Production has stopped. The 09's are in short supply. If anything, the price will go up." "We're going to hang on to our 09's since they'll be getting rare as we sell out." Wow. Are these guys living in the same country? The same planet? Do they realize they work in the auto industry? Have they seen the numbers? I'm in the SF Bay Area, and I personally know four people laid off from high-paying tech jobs in the past 5 months (and four others who barely escaped). Not to mention the forthcoming waves of state employee layoffs and foreclosures. I've been negotiating mostly via email, and some phone. Do I need to go in and wave the cash around? I was hoping the internet could spare me the face to face. Sorry for the rant. I know I have the right price from this forum. Any tips/advice for dealing with unreasonable salesmen would be appreciated... |
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Replying to: marsound (Jun 02, 2009 10:53 pm) That is priceless Do I need to go in and wave the cash around? No, they would rather you finance Any tips/advice for dealing with unreasonable salesmen would be appreciated Go somewhere else - they don't care
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Replying to: rdy (Jun 02, 2009 4:30 pm) On that note (regarding my decision between CRV and Outback), it seems like with the manufacturer rebates from other makes like Subaru, Honda is becoming a bit overpriced in this market. I am seeing very few people getting cars for significantly below invoice on them.
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Replying to: glitch1 (Jun 03, 2009 7:40 am) Anyway, it was a good experience for me, so I certainly recommend an email or phone call to get a price. If you tell them the exact car you want, you should be able to get an OTD price immediately.
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Replying to: marsound (Jun 02, 2009 10:53 pm) Anyways, every car company has atleast one car that is selling with no problem. With Toyota, it seems to be the Camry (lots of dealer have exhausted their 09 supply), with Honda it seems to be the Civic. With Subrau, it is not the Outback, it's the Impreza. Lost of dealersips in the New England area only have around 9 or less left. The dealership down the street from me only 2 left. But most of the dealerships still have lots of other Subarus left. ANways, lowest I got (New england) was 18.9K + TTL, but I have seen them in ads for less. |
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Replying to: xwesx (Jun 03, 2009 9:23 am) |
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Replying to: rdy (Jun 03, 2009 7:32 am) No, they would rather you finance rdy, I notice that in your excellent post on car buying, you say to never finance through the dealer. Would mind explaining why? The 2.9% that Subaru is offering is pretty tempting... Thanks for all the great info.
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Replying to: marsound (Jun 03, 2009 8:00 pm) Ah, I was unaware of manufacturer supported finance. Subaru are buying down the rate. That's unbeatable in the regular marketplace, and the only time one should consider buying money at a car store. Never finance beyond 48 mo. Preferably 36 mo. Beware - Oftentimes they attach conditions like 'Rate only applies on dealer approved unit cap cost (selling price) or some such language) Essential to know your FICO going in...dealerships will often tell applicants they don't qualify but they can offer you a wonderful rate of xx%. So know your credit union or bank pre approved loan rate in the back of your mind, for true apples to apples. Personally it would be the Subaru of America 2.9% deal or nothing. I would never consider any third party dealer finance co. It will cost you more in nickel and dime fees and gotcha's etc than your own source - guaranteed. Only folks without options finance at dealerships. Dealerships typically make between 1% - 4% on money. That's a huge spread over a 48 mo term. Did I say never finance beyond 48 mo ? Preferably 36 mo. Like every other contract, read the fine print. 
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