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Re: 2009 2.5iL [tsxowwner]
by 14cars
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Feb 02, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: tsxowwner (Feb 01, 2009 5:29 pm)
Yes, the price we paid was over $5000 off MSRP ... The haggle room became apparent when we submitted requests from several dealerships and the quotes came back. Only one was in the range of the predicted TMV on Edmunds but others were significantly (!) lower. I think we requested quotes from 6 dealerships in our area. We worked the deal at our local dealership but would have been willling to drive an hour if it meant getting a substantially better deal. (No trade, straight cash/financing deal-- our financing, not theirs.). Bought in NW Indiana. Competitive quotes came from Chicago.
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- #1672 of 2223
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Re: 2009 2.5iL [tsxowwner]
by xwesx
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Feb 02, 2009 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: tsxowwner (Feb 01, 2009 5:29 pm)
The $1500 rebate is a discount from the manufacturer - it does not affect the dealer. In other words, you should take the $1500 off the top, meaning if your MSRP is $29,489, but they are offering a $1500 rebate, you should consider the MSRP to be $27,989 and the invoice to be $26,000. Therefore, $25,842 is $158 under invoice and within the realm of possibility (dealer's 3% holdback), especially for a volume dealer where quantity sold results in the real payday for the dealer.
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- #1673 of 2223
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Re: 2009 2.5iL [14cars]
by rl newbie
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Feb 02, 2009 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: 14cars (Feb 02, 2009 11:29 am)
That's great - congratulations. How did you submit to dealers over the internet - through the Subaru website?
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- #1674 of 2223
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Re: 2009 2.5iL [14cars]
by tsxowwner
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Feb 03, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: 14cars (Feb 02, 2009 11:29 am)
The subaru website currently lists the march program. Looks like you can either get either:
(a) $1,500 cash back plus 2.9% or
(b) $1,500 customer cash
I don't really follow this - why would (b) be any better. Am i reading this right? Or can you combine the cash back with the customer cash to get $3,000 reduction (albeit take a worse apr).
maybe someone can translate the below
Outback
CASH BACK PLUS 2.9% FINANCING ON 09 SUBARU OUTBACK MODELS
Cash Back may not be combined with any other incentive but an APR incentive. Financing for well-qualified applicants who finance through Subaru Motors Finance. Length of contract is limited. Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval and vehicle availability. No down payment required. See participating dealers for details. Must take delivery from dealer stock by March 2, 2009.
$1,500 Cash Back plus 2.9% Financing on 09 OUTBACK models (excluding Outback Sport)
$ 0 Cash Back plus 2.9% Financing on 09 OUTBACK Sport models
2.9% FINANCING ON ALL 09 SUBARU OUTBACK MODELS
Cannot be combined with any other incentive. Financing for well-qualified applicants only. Length of contract is limited. Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval and vehicle availability. No down payment required. See participating dealers for details. Must take delivery from dealer stock by March 2, 2009.
CUSTOMER CASH ON 09 SUBARU OUTBACK MODELS
Now through March 2, 2009 - 09 OUTBACK models are available with Customer Cash. Must take delivery from dealer stock by March 2, 2009. See your participating dealer for details. Cannot be combined with any other incentives.
$1,500 Customer Cash on 09 OUTBACK models (excluding Outback Sport)
$ 0 Customer Cash on 09 OUTBACK Sport models
SPECIAL LEASE OFFER* ON 09 SUBARU OUTBACK (9DC)
Now through March 2, 2009 - $239 per month for 36 months with $1,699 due at lease signing. $0 security deposit. Tax, title and registration fees extra. Other leases available on other models. Cannot be combined with any other incentives.
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- #1675 of 2223
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Re: [pam4water]
by ateixeira
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Feb 03, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: pam4water (Jan 16, 2009 1:14 am)
I have a Sienna and we really like it but in the snow there is no comparison. It struggles to climb my driveway in conditions our Forester shrugs off or doesn't even notice.
If you get snow - you won't regret getting a Subaru.
I like the Sienna but in the snow I'll borrow my wife's Forester. If she lets me. 
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Re: 2009 2.5iL [rl newbie]
by 14cars
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Feb 05, 2009 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: rl newbie (Feb 02, 2009 5:06 pm)
I submitted to dealers through the Edmunds site ... really easy ... you can select multiple dealers, not just the initial 3 the come up closest to your zip code. We found that you do need to be very specific in what you request so that you can compare apples to apples. (For example, specify which package, what extras (if any), and ask them to outline specific costs/fees (destination, tax, title, admin fees, etc... ). We weren't picky about color and didn't specify that. The dealerships all seem to have internet sales people or administrative people who respond VERY quickly. Good luck!
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- #1677 of 2223
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Re: 2009 2.5iL [14cars]
by tsxowwner
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Feb 09, 2009 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: 14cars (Feb 05, 2009 2:29 pm)
what are outback limiteds going for?
i know the program is 1,500 rebate + 500 owner loyalty + apr.
ignoring rebates, what about starting the discussion at 800 under invoice?
thoughts?
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- #1678 of 2223
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Re: 2009 2.5iL [14cars]
by hellskitchen
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Feb 16, 2009 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: 14cars (Jan 26, 2009 11:29 pm)
I keep reading about a march rebate of 1500 cash back on 2009 Outbacks, but where is it? not on the Subaru website nor on local dealer websites. I live in 10804 New Rochelle NY just above NYC? Actually, I was more interested in the model just below the Limited, the Special Edition with automatic, and neither Carsdirect nor other internet sits carry it. My attempt to get dealer quotes is always the same, "call us". What gives? 
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- #1679 of 2223
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Re: [memphischarlie]
by hellskitchen
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Feb 16, 2009 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: memphischarlie (Jan 22, 2009 8:15 am)
this is exactly the problem that I have been running into. I want an '09 Special Edition with auto. Used the Consumes Report method which is slightly lower than TMV. Two problems, i can not find out what the heck everyone is talking about regarding the rebates of $1500, and the second problem is that no matter whom I use, even carsdirect.com, whenever i request a specific quote, i get a call back or message that says "C'mon down" ie- no internet offers, come in so I can steal your gold teeth! Is it something bout New York? (I am just above the city -NYC- line. Any advice or tips? Am willing to travel a bit, but a;already got two bait and switch offers from upstate NY dealers before i decided to go with a new model.
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Re: [hellskitchen]
by ateixeira
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Feb 18, 2009 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: hellskitchen (Feb 16, 2009 1:47 pm)
Rebates can vary by region and even state to state. That may explain it.
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