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#1658 of 3414 Re: '09 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE [zodiac711]
by dad2be
Jan 13, 2009 (11:51 am)
Any update on your price negotiations on the west coast? Here in the Northeast, Outbacks always seem to be available with some additional dealer incentives (above and beyond the holdback and customer rebates.)
Until recently, I had an '05 Outback 2.5i with 42k miles that has been a pleasure to own since we purchased it new in November 2004. It was unfortunately destroyed over the holiday and I'm now looking for a replacement. From my browsing on Fitzmall, it appears that an Automatic 2.5i SE with MSRP of 25901 can be had for 21677, which is right in between your two numbers. This would be the maximum I would pay. My local dealer, Becker Subaru, said they would match this price, but I'm going to get a few more quotes as well. I also am not sure what price to target since dealer incentives aren't easy to determine, but it doesn't hurt to get as many quotes as possible.
The insurance company gave us ~$14,100 for our '05 plus 6% tax and the doc fee, totaling just over $15,000 as the settlement. I'm happy that I get to upgrade to a brand new '09 model for just $6677 extra (maximum) plus tax and tags. Can't complaint too much about the depreciation during my 50 months of ownership. We only did oil changes, air filters, and tire rotations during that time.
#1659 of 3414 Re: '09 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE [dad2be]
by zodiac711
Jan 13, 2009 (1:26 pm)
dad2be: Unfortunately I don't have much more of an update to report. The best deal to be had was the loss-leader advertised in the paper for $20.9k (which, while was still available, the ad had expired and the dealer wouldn't go for it). Beyond that, I did get another dealer to match the $21.3k price, but couldn't get anyone to go lower.
I did hear that my wife's co-worker also got a new '09 Outback 2.5i SE for ~ $21.5k (don't know the exact price) via the Internet ~ 1-3 months prior (don't know the full details).
The bottom line, is that it appeared the loss-leader was the lowest (but only by about $400). That, and the fact that none of the dealers were having any great end-of-the-year pricing. I have since opted to wait until ~ September, where I'll reinvestigate making a purchase.
Thank-you for your response however -- it's nice to know that I didn't appear to be leaving a lot of $$$ on the table.
Jan 16, 2009 (2:14 am)
I was going to buy a Camry, but this bad weather and the local road conditions have made me reconsider. I'm looking at Outbacks and Legacys. I see lists of incentives on 2008 Subarus. Are there a lot of 2008s still at the dealers? Is there a big down side to buy and a 2008?
Jan 16, 2009 (7:39 am)
No downside that I can think of. As to the bad weather, of the two, the Outback would better, as it has more ground clearance. When snow is deep, that can be an advantage.
Bob
Jan 16, 2009 (8:03 am)
pam4water: Don't know where you're at, but in the Portland, OR region, while dealers still had 2008's, the cost difference between an '08 and an '09 was truly negligble -- maybe $50-$100 bucks. And an '09 will have a higher blue-book value than an '08, meaning that should you either wreck the car, or decide to sell it in a few years, you're better off with the '09.
If the price difference were more significant, I myself would opt for an '08, but for that kind of measly difference, I'd highly recommend the '09.
#1663 of 3414 Re: [zodiac711]
by xwesx
Jan 16, 2009 (9:28 am)
For '09, Subaru also made VDC (which it sounds like you may appreciate) available across the line on Outbacks. For '08, it had only trickled down to the Limited models and up.
#1664 of 3414 Lease + purchase deals ending this month
by jpenndcl
Jan 19, 2009 (12:27 pm)
Is it a good deal to get a new 2009 Outback 25i Special Edition for 19,300?
Also, I am wondering about whether or not their lease special at 239 a month is a good deal for a 2009 Outback 25i Special Edition? It did not say what the residual or money factor was for this car. Any thoughts would be welcome!
#1665 of 3414 Re: Lease + purchase deals ending this month [jpenndcl]
by zodiac711
Jan 19, 2009 (2:50 pm)
jpenndcl,
Is the $19.3k for a manual or automatic transmission?
The lowest I could find on a new '09 2.5i SE automatic was $20.9k (loss-leader in the paper), and $21.3k (lowest price I could negotiate via the Internet). This was all at the end of 2008.
So, if it was an automatic, I'd say it's a heck of a deal... At least compared to what I could find. I'm in the Portland, OR area, and Subaru's are quite popular, so if you were in an area were they weren't popular, perhaps that would come into play as well...
Best of luck.
#1666 of 3414 Re: Lease + purchase deals ending this month [zodiac711]
by jpenndcl
Jan 19, 2009 (3:09 pm)
Zodiac,
I am in Indiana and am not sure how popular they are... I see a few here and there. I do not believe the sales person specified manual/automatic, but I will find that out tonight.
As for the lease, is the $239 a month a decent deal? Assuming that the residual is not like $16000... I think I will likely need to go with the lease in this economy and just plan on buying it out when we come out of this mess. Thanks for the information!!
Jan 22, 2009 (9:15 am)
I have been looking at the '08 2.5i versus the '09 2.5i SE. The '09 SE has vehicle stability control and an upgraded stereo and would be much preferred, as you have explained.
I see that in most parts of the country, there is $1,500 customer cash for the '09. However, in my area (Tennessee) there is no current incentive for the '09 Outback. In my area, for the '08 you can get $1,500 customer cash and 0% financing for 2 years.
Has anyone ever noticed incentive differences between regions like this?
There's no way I could consider negotiating on a '09 in my area if I can't get a $1,500 rebate that people in other parts of the country can get!
Maybe there will be customer cash in February in Tennessee? Maybe not?