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Subaru Outback Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Certified Used with RUST Damage?? Help! [ladydayc] by indianajohns
Jan 09, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: ladydayc (Jan 09, 2009 6:13 am)

I don't mean to be so matter of fact but, the only "mistake" seems to be buying a used car without thoroughly inspecting it for problems. Especially when you are paying Blue Book EXCELLENT condition prices. It's not Subaru's problem that you didn't inspect the used vehicle prior to purchase. If you had read the Blue Book description of EXCELLENT condition you would've noticed that it describes Excellent Condition as:
 
"Excellent" condition means that the vehicle looks new, is in excellent mechanical condition and needs no reconditioning. This vehicle has never had any paint or body work and is free of rust. The vehicle has a clean title history and will pass a smog and safety inspection. The engine compartment is clean, with no fluid leaks and is free of any wear or visible defects. The vehicle also has complete and verifiable service records. Less than 5% of all used vehicles fall into this category."
 
Notice that it says free of rust, never had any paint/body work, clean title history, Also note, it says less than 5% of all used vehicles fall into the Excellent catagory.
 
It is possible you had a vehicle that sustained flood damage. The only way you could tell is if the vehicle was totalled by the insurance company. Then their would be a Salvage title. The CarFax report is never going to tell you anything except when it has a Salvage Title. Total Loss is normally reached when the total cost of repairs reach 70% or more of the vehicle's value. Some flood damage could easily be fixed for a fraction of that. Point being, it could've been flood damaged but there is no way of ever proving it. In my opinion, you should've inspected the vehicle before buying it.
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Re: Certified Used with RUST Damage?? Help! [indianajohns] by ateixeira
Jan 09, 2009 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: indianajohns (Jan 09, 2009 12:12 pm)

Remember this is CPO. She paid more because Subaru was supposed to do that for her, a fair expectation IMHO.
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Re: Certified Used with RUST Damage?? Help! [ateixeira] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 09, 2009 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 09, 2009 12:31 pm)

I wonder if it's really certified... Does Subaru certify five-yr-old cars?
 
My local Chevy dealer has a sign on every used car that says certified... but, it doesn't mean anything...
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Re: Certified Used with RUST Damage?? Help! [kyfdx] by ateixeira
Jan 09, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 09, 2009 12:35 pm)

Good point. Coming from a dealership it means nothing. Coming from the manufacturer it certainly does.
 
If that CPO was a dealer claim, I'd go back to the dealer. Of course all they will do is try to get you to trade up to something else, perhaps offer you full KBB on your trade.
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by ladydayc
Jan 09, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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Thanks to those who offered advice opposed to insults (which really don't help us at all at this point, unfortunately.)
 
The car is actually CPO. Subaru certifies cars up to 6 years old, with certain specifications. And it is under warranty until June '10 (for powertrain and bumper to bumper).
 
Already spoke to Subaru about the problem who told us to approach the dealer and then return to Subaru customer service to make sure it was resolved to our satisfaction.
 
thanks!
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Re: Certified Used with RUST Damage?? Help! [kyfdx] by xwesx
Jan 09, 2009 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 09, 2009 12:35 pm)

My local Chevy dealer has a sign on every used car that says certified... but, it doesn't mean anything...
 
Hehe, sure! They are certifying that it was owned by someone prior to it being on their lot! It is a certified pre-owned car!
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Re: [ladydayc] by ateixeira
Jan 12, 2009 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: ladydayc (Jan 09, 2009 2:05 pm)

In that case, let's give them a chance to respond, but please keep us posted.
 
You pay more for a CPO to avoid this exact type of problem.
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Re: '09 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE [zodiac711] by dad2be
Jan 13, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: zodiac711 (Dec 30, 2008 10:17 am)

Any update on your price negotiations on the west coast? Here in the Northeast, Outbacks always seem to be available with some additional dealer incentives (above and beyond the holdback and customer rebates.)
 
Until recently, I had an '05 Outback 2.5i with 42k miles that has been a pleasure to own since we purchased it new in November 2004. It was unfortunately destroyed over the holiday and I'm now looking for a replacement. From my browsing on Fitzmall, it appears that an Automatic 2.5i SE with MSRP of 25901 can be had for 21677, which is right in between your two numbers. This would be the maximum I would pay. My local dealer, Becker Subaru, said they would match this price, but I'm going to get a few more quotes as well. I also am not sure what price to target since dealer incentives aren't easy to determine, but it doesn't hurt to get as many quotes as possible.
 
The insurance company gave us ~$14,100 for our '05 plus 6% tax and the doc fee, totaling just over $15,000 as the settlement. I'm happy that I get to upgrade to a brand new '09 model for just $6677 extra (maximum) plus tax and tags. Can't complaint too much about the depreciation during my 50 months of ownership. We only did oil changes, air filters, and tire rotations during that time.
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Re: '09 Subaru Outback 2.5i SE [dad2be] by zodiac711
Jan 13, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: dad2be (Jan 13, 2009 10:51 am)

dad2be: Unfortunately I don't have much more of an update to report. The best deal to be had was the loss-leader advertised in the paper for $20.9k (which, while was still available, the ad had expired and the dealer wouldn't go for it). Beyond that, I did get another dealer to match the $21.3k price, but couldn't get anyone to go lower.
 
I did hear that my wife's co-worker also got a new '09 Outback 2.5i SE for ~ $21.5k (don't know the exact price) via the Internet ~ 1-3 months prior (don't know the full details).
 
The bottom line, is that it appeared the loss-leader was the lowest (but only by about $400). That, and the fact that none of the dealers were having any great end-of-the-year pricing. I have since opted to wait until ~ September, where I'll reinvestigate making a purchase.
 
Thank-you for your response however -- it's nice to know that I didn't appear to be leaving a lot of $$$ on the table.
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by pam4water
Jan 16, 2009 (1:14 am)
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I was going to buy a Camry, but this bad weather and the local road conditions have made me reconsider. I'm looking at Outbacks and Legacys. I see lists of incentives on 2008 Subarus. Are there a lot of 2008s still at the dealers? Is there a big down side to buy and a 2008?

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