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Subaru Outback Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Purchased Subaru Outback 2.5I Limited w/VDC yesterday [fxoffroad] by 14ersco
Sep 08, 2007 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: fxoffroad (Sep 01, 2007 8:34 am)

I am also in Colorado and have decided to make my Outback purchase with the dealer in Colorado Springs. Number 1 in sales for Subaru and a large inventory. They have always answered my calls and email quickly and have provided below invoice prices on not only cars they have in stock, but also cars in stock at other dealers. Did not try Valley since they did not have the Outback in stock that I wanted.
 
As far as other dealers in Colorado it has been interesting. Did use the Subaru site to ask for prices at 3 dealers on cars they had in stock. One in the mtns waited a week to reply and never offered a price. The one in GJ called within an hour, but the saleswoman admitted she had only been working there 2 weeks and when I asked for a price she guessed it was MSRP; she did call back and offer invoice. The third request was to Golden where I previously bought Subaru's and have had my service done. They never offered a price, but I did get a test drive; after going through 4-5 salesmen. Also used Edmunds to ask for prices from Golden and Boulder; 10 days later and no reply from either.
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [kurisu] by lemonbalm
Sep 09, 2007 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: kurisu (Aug 17, 2007 8:21 pm)

The internet sales at the dealership I'm looking at quoted me for a 2.5i which comes with the cold weather package. He said "our cost is 22,200 and
we would ask to make at least a small profit on it." (destination/deliv charge included in that price.). I'm not looking at VDC and I hope that's the right decision. I'm not sure if that 22K included the rebate but I would assume not, as I just read about it here.
Excuse my newbie-ness, but I'm going in today to drive the thing and have my Sienna LE looked at for trade in (I know I have to look it up in the KBB first, however).
Any thoughts on what I should offer? I am paying CASH plus the trade in. No financing.
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Re: Purchased Subaru Outback 2.5I Limited w/VDC yesterday [14ersco] by fxoffroad
Sep 09, 2007 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: 14ersco (Sep 08, 2007 9:04 pm)

Valley Subaru in Longmont didn't have the Limited I wanted either... but they got the exact car I wanted and the had the lowest price - which is exactly what I paid when I took delivery.
 
I was very surprised by dealers in the Denver area - like Burt Subaru who until last week were still sending me e-mails to see what color and model I wanted (I had always responded w/ the details), so it was a crock. I drove an Outback LTD the Golden dealership. Walked right in and the sales manager got me a plate and handed me the keys... I asked if I could take it up on 70 and he said go to Idaho Springs if you like by myself. That was sweet and honestly that was the deciding moment for me. Unfortunately they never gave me pricing on the vehicle.
 
Shorline in Aurora came in second place - but couldn't match the price from Valley in Longmont. And I don't understand why Shortline needs to put pinstriping on every Outback. The other dealers, Flatirons, etc... just plain bad.
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [lemonbalm] by fxoffroad
Sep 09, 2007 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: lemonbalm (Sep 09, 2007 5:09 am)

Not that its my business or concern... but why would you not want a vehicle with stability control (VDC)? I think that is something that should be on every vehicle.
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [fxoffroad] by mithrandir
Sep 10, 2007 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: fxoffroad (Sep 09, 2007 2:53 pm)

VDC is simply not available on the 2.5i; you have to get the Limited package for that. Since the Limited package also "gives" you leather, moonroof and other pricey but non-essential features, demanding VDC raises your costs.
 
To get VDC and a stick shift, you have to choose the Outback XT. Now you are in a different TCO ballgame.
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [mithrandir] by cptplt
Sep 10, 2007 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: mithrandir (Sep 10, 2007 5:49 pm)

you can get a 2.5 "base" LL Bean with VDC, you get the nav but not the leather and sunroof. But it is auto only and only about 1 grand less than a 2.5i Ltd VDC (which has no nav).
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [cptplt] by mithrandir
Sep 10, 2007 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: cptplt (Sep 10, 2007 6:10 pm)

There are too many 4 cylinder Outback styles. Basic < 2.5i < LLBean < LLBean VDC < Limited < Limited VDC < LLBean Limited < LLBean Limited VDC < XT < XT Nav. If you want to confuse matters more you could stick the Impreza-based Outback "Sport" to the left of the "Basic"! But at least now Outbacks are wagons and Legacies are sedans.
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [mithrandir] by fxoffroad
Sep 11, 2007 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: mithrandir (Sep 10, 2007 7:03 pm)

Too many? I don't think so. For comparison off the top of my head... try the Ford Super Duty series of trucks. There are six models that can configured in a variety of ways. I commend Subaru for offering as these vehicles. Or do you prefer the Honda method of providing less variations than Subaru?
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [fxoffroad] by tifighter
Sep 11, 2007 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: fxoffroad (Sep 11, 2007 10:38 am)

I think the truck market and expectations of their buyers, with regards to options and packages, are very different to the average buyer of a mid-sized sedan or wagon. Few commercial buyers looking at Outbacks.
 
I agree that Subaru's Outback line is pretty confusing to a new buyer. VDC becomes standard on Limiteds made after July, so that knocks one model out. To me, it should look like basic/2.5i/LL Bean/LL Bean Ltd. The standard Limited is just another layer that splits things too thin. Plus, I have always thought that the XT and 3.0R just steal sales from each other. They are featured too closely and priced too similarly. If they MUST have both, decontent the XT and give it lower the price of entry. Emphasize sport. Bump up the output of the 3.0R and make it the flagship. Emphasize luxury.
 
But at the top, I still think they only need one...
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Re: Subaru Outback: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [mithrandir] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: mithrandir (Sep 10, 2007 7:03 pm)

They should simplify it by making VDC standard (overdue IMO) and then making GPS a stand-alone option.

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