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Re: Just Bought Outback 2.5i [theotherone1]
by overcot
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Jul 31, 2007 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: theotherone1 (Jul 31, 2007 5:13 am)
theotherone1: Also, was that a 2008 or 2007? In the new england area, the invoice price includes the $200 CA emissions requirement and a $300 distributor ship charge -- probably an advertising fee of some sorts.
I just purchased a 2008 outback 2.5i Ltd w/VDC for $400 over this particular dealer's invoice, before rebate (-$1000), doc fee (+$249), and TTL (+$$$). The price was basically exactly TMV/cars.com target. Oh well. I just don't buy cars often enough to get good at this. 
What are the rules about dealer invoices anyway? What is to prevent them from inflating the invoice from the distributor?
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How to get a nice deal ?
by milem
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Jul 31, 2007 (2:44 pm)
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Hello,
For those who just bought a 2008 Subaru, can you give me some info about your own experience in the negociation process that would help me getting a good deal .
I should answer back to my dealer to get things moving(long distance negociation)...
Thanks for your help !
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- #1345 of 2221
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Re: Just Bought Outback 2.5i [milem]
by theotherone1
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Aug 01, 2007 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: milem (Jul 31, 2007 5:31 am)
They threw in the options at no charge all of them, since they were on the car already (We asked for the mats/cargo net) Rebate here until today was $1000 Msrp I can't remeber offhand was 24,600 or so Invoice price sounds right.(the msrp and invoice should be similar I would think all over except maybe destination charge Here in Seattle $695) We got an internet rep who last few days of the month just wanted to get a sale He told us that the car cost him after the holdback ( a sort of dealer cashout from Subaru around 3% usually) 20,900, so he made a little over 500 on us although I did not see paperwork to confirm this price. We got quotes from several dealers and kept trying to beat one with the other...This process was easy by email over 3 days, got the lowest price where no one else would bargain walked in and literally within 1 hour drove out withe car We paid cash 3500 and the rest we put on our card for airmiles...(we did haved to go back and forth for them to let us charge that although there is noi reason that you can't other than the dealer may object to paying the 2% or whatever card fee At 1.5 -2cents a mile that's another 3-400 you get...Hope this helps
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- #1346 of 2221
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Re: Just Bought Outback 2.5i [overcot]
by theotherone1
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Aug 01, 2007 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: overcot (Jul 31, 2007 8:49 am)
2008...Had no emissions charge Had a 695 destination charge
Your price may be very good in fact...I don't believe there are ANY rules about invoice Cdertain models you're lucky to get within thousands of the invoice... VDC models are much more in demand than 2.5i manuals I'd guess hence less rebate, and rooom to bargain...Even if you slightly overpaid, In say 7 years or so of driving what's the cost? 5-10 bucks a month?-..Years ago when I bought my Forester 140,000 miles and still great, no way could I get ANY dealer within 700 of the invoice...In demand and extremely limited supply here (edited for poor typing and spelling LOL)
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Re: How to get a nice deal ? [milem]
by theotherone1
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Aug 01, 2007 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: milem (Jul 31, 2007 2:44 pm)
Did you purchase yet? If there was a rebate it ended yesterday...May be worth waiting to get 1000 off...But in any case I would first email sevral dealers in your zip Then change zips say within 20-30 miles somewhere you'd be willing to drive to to buy the car. Take your lowest bids and start emailing the other dealers by asking them how much and how they can BEAT the bid either by cash off or options added free...Never mention financing/trade-in...You will probably very quickly get a good idea within a couple of hundred dollars of what you will pay after a few rounds of emails..at least that is what I did...Hope this helps
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- #1348 of 2221
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Re: How to get a nice deal ? [theotherone1]
by milem
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Aug 01, 2007 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: theotherone1 (Aug 01, 2007 12:41 pm)
Hello Theotherone,
I haven't purchase my car yet, it will either be a 2.5i, 2.5i LLbean + vdc or 2.5i ltd + vdc...
I'm waiting for a quote on the ltd, I was afraid to give my own price to the dealer before having made my mind on the car (and done my homework on this forum!).
I got some quotes from some dealers but I haven't tried to let them beat the best quote I go. Do you simply write them and give them the quote you got and asked them if they can beat it ?
Thanks for your help!
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Re: How to get a nice deal ? [milem]
by overcot
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Aug 01, 2007 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: milem (Aug 01, 2007 1:51 pm)
Hi milem, i don't know if it's any help but we reached our choice like this: must have VDC, so that ruled out 2.5i, must have sunroof, so that also ruled out 2.5i, must have dark interior, so that ruled out any LLBean styles, must have leather, don't care about Nav, so that strongly suggested Ltd. So that's what we ended up with: 2.5i auto LTD w/ VDC. It's a sweet ride...
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Re: How to get a nice deal ? [milem]
by theotherone1
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Aug 01, 2007 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: milem (Aug 01, 2007 1:51 pm)
Never tell the dealer what you are willing to pay for it...And definitely email other dealers with a detailed description of the car and options you want, and ask them to give you a better price. When you get that, as in our case we went into a dealershipo ready to buy and asked for yet another $100 off in options.This was the same dealership we had purchased 2 cars from.When he refused we got up and left.We went back by email to another dealer and he was ready to deal. He was straight with us that"hey here's my cost after holdback and i want to make this much" and the final price was better than anyone's. Unfortunately the rebate period is over in the 2.5i that was $1000. I don't know if there are rebates in your state, but if you are in no rush maybe you should wait for it, or ask the dealers online what you can get in lieu of that.dEALERS BSUPPOSEDLY ARE RELUCTANT TO TALK ABOUT HOLDBACKS BUT REMEMBER THEY MAKE 3-4% TYPICALLY ON THE FULL MSRP...yOU CAN FIND REBATES TO YOU/DEALER AND HOLDBACKS ON THIS SITE...tHERE ARE OTHER MANUFACTURERS INCENTIVES LIKE SALES INCENTIVES THAT ARE HARDER TO FIND Hope that helps (woops cap locks on by mistake)
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Re: How to get a nice deal ? [overcot]
by theotherone1
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Aug 01, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: overcot (Aug 01, 2007 5:39 pm)
Milem I agree with overcot, get the features you want and can afford..after years of driving the extra money will really not matter Overcot, thaqt is a beautiful car wish I had that extra K LOL Enjoy
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- #1352 of 2221
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Re: Just Bought Outback 2.5i [theotherone1]
by overcot
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Aug 01, 2007 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: theotherone1 (Aug 01, 2007 12:35 pm)
Theotherone1, glad to hear you have a Forester with that many miles on it. We have two VWs with similar miles that are bankrupting us with maintenance and repairs and hope our Subaru experience will be better. Couldn't get anything for the VWs at trade so we might have to drive them until they explode.
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