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#949 of 1005 2013 Legacy Limited - Good Deal?
by subarunewbie14
Aug 30, 2012 (8:26 pm)
Hello,
My local dealership is offering $25.7K + 400$ doc fee for a 2.5i Limited with Moonroof. My other choice is 27.4K$ + 500$ in dealer fee for a 2013 Legacy 2.5i Limited with Moonroof and Nav package. I'm tempted to go with the first offer, as I dont really care for the Nav package. Is this is a good deal?
Thanks! This will be my first Subaru and I am pretty excited about it!
#950 of 1005 any deals on the 2013s yet
by rman66
Sep 24, 2012 (10:03 pm)
It seems to be a no brainer that the 2013 models are far superior to the 2012s
I am sold on the 2013 model year Legacy sedan but looking for a decent price to buy
The dealers in the seattle area have jacked up prices and offer no deals
how are the prices in california, oregon or idaho
#951 of 1005 Re: any deals on the 2013s yet [rman66]
by marvinlee1
Sep 25, 2012 (1:09 am)
Consider determining the price that you are willing to pay and making
a take-it-or-leave-it offer to your local dealer. If he accepts your
offer, you benefit from having a local seller to deal with on future
repairs and services. If he rejects your offer, you are at no
disadvantage compared to your present situation. Also, consider
having your dealer order a car to your specifications on model and
options directly from the factory. The dealer benefits from not
having a car sitting on his lot and you may find that you can do just
fine without some of the costly options that dealership car inventory
often comes with. Good luck on your shopping.
#952 of 1005 2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited price - need some advice asap
by willieinmaine
Sep 27, 2012 (7:50 am)
Friends,
I have been offered this car:
http://www.charliessubaru.com/new/Subaru/2013-Subaru-Outback-11c6e7020a0d048e013- 255734a235ffc.htm
for $30K even "all taxes and fees included"
How does this sound to you? Here are some details in case the link is no good:
thanks - Will
Convenience Features
Air conditioning
Automatic temperature control
Front dual zone A/C
Speed control
Power windows
1-touch down
1-touch up
Remote keyless entry
Illuminated entry
Tilt steering wheel
Telescoping steering wheel
Driver vanity mirror
Passenger vanity mirror
Front beverage holders
Rear beverage holders
Overhead console
Driver door bin
Passenger door bin
Rear door bins
Entertainment Features
AM/FM radio
CD player
MP3 decoder
Radio data system
Steering wheel mounted audio controls
Speakers: 9
Wireless phone connectivity
1st row LCD monitors: 1
Warranty
Basic warranty: 36 months/36,000miles
Powertrain warranty: 60 months/60,000miles
Corrosion perforation warranty: 60 months/ unlimited distance
Roadside assistance coverage: 36 months/36,000miles
Seats and Trim
Max seating capacity: 5
Front seats: bucket
Power driver seat
Power passenger seat
Front center armrest: w/storage
Heated front seats
Rear seats: bench
Split folding rear seat
Rear seat center armrest
Leather upholstery
Body Exterior
Number of doors: 4
Power door mirrors
Heated door mirrors
Spoiler
Door mirrors: body-color
Bumpers: body-color
Roof rack
Specs and Dimensions
Engine displacement: 2.5 L
Engine horsepower: 173hp
5,600RPM
Engine torque: 174 lb.-ft.
4,100RPM
Engine bore x stroke: 94.0mm x 89.9mm (3.70" x 3.54")
Compression ratio: 10.00 to 1
GVWR: 2,080kg (4,585lbs)
Towing capacity: 1,225kg (2,700lbs)
Exterior length: 4,801mm (189.0")
Exterior body width: 1,821mm (71.7")
Exterior height: 1,671mm (65.8")
Wheelbase: 2,741mm (107.9")
Turning radius: 5.6m (18.4')
Front legroom: 1,092mm (43.0")
Rear legroom: 960mm (37.8")
Front headroom: 1,036mm (40.8")
Rear headroom: 998mm (39.3")
Front hiproom: 1,384mm (54.5")
Rear hiproom: 1,369mm (53.9")
Front shoulder room: 1,430mm (56.3")
Rear shoulder room: 1,425mm (56.1")
Passenger volume: 2,985L (105.4 cu.ft.)
Interior cargo volume: 971 L (34 cu.ft.)
Interior maximum cargo volume: 2,019 L (71 cu.ft.)
Powertrain
Engine liters: 2.5
Cylinder configuration: H-4
Horsepower: 173hp
5,600RPM
Torque: 174 lb.-ft.
4,100RPM
Number of valves: 16
Variable valve control
Sequential multi-point fuel injection
Engine location: front
Recommended fuel: regular unleaded
Transmission: continuously variable automatic
Manual-shift auto
Drive type: all-wheel drive
Fuel economy city: 24mpg
Fuel economy highway: 30mpg
Fuel tank capacity: 18.5gal.
Safety and Security
4 wheel disc brakes
ABS brakes
Brake assist
Dual front impact airbags
Dual front side impact airbags
Overhead airbag
Occupant sensing airbag
Panic alarm
Ignition disable
Security system
Electronic stability
Traction control
Anti-whiplash front head restraints
Suspension/Handling
Four wheel independent suspension
Front anti-roll bar
Rear anti-roll bar
Power steering
Speed-sensing steering
Alloy wheels
Front tires: 225/60TR17.0
Rear tires: 225/60TR17.0
Wheel size: 17"
Lighting, Visibility and Instrumentation
Fully automatic headlights
Front fog lights
Variably intermittent wipers
Rear window wiper
Rear window defroster
Front reading lights
Tachometer
Outside temperature display
Low tire pressure warning
Trip computer
#953 of 1005 Re: 2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited price - need some advice asap [willieinmaine]
by blin279
Sep 27, 2012 (7:52 pm)
Hi Will,
This price looks fair for 2013 Outback 2.5i Limited.
What was the sale price before tax etc.? Did you check it with www.truecar.com?
Legacy Sedan and Outback are being sold ~2.0...2.5k below MSRP and 1...2% below invoice. Remember they are being made in Lafayette, IN now. Supply is pretty good. I purchased 2013 Legacy Sedan 2.5i Premium w/all weather package a hair above 22k a month ago. It was my first Subaru ever and I LOVE it! Good luck!
Andy
#954 of 1005 Re: 2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited price - need some advice asap [blin279]
by vballplayer30
Sep 29, 2012 (1:32 pm)
Hey Blin, what was your final price and did it include taxes and fees?
#955 of 1005 Re: 2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited price - need some advice asap [blin279]
by dmvball7
Oct 01, 2012 (12:27 pm)
Hi there im looking at a 2012 Legacy with the all weather package for $21,000, is this a fair deal. Vballplayer 30-you mentioned you purchased a 2013 with the same package for a lil over 22k, how much was it and where?
#956 of 1005 Re: 2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited price - need some advice asap [dmvball7]
by vballplayer30
Oct 01, 2012 (5:42 pm)
I negotiated the 2013 Legacy premium with the all weather package for 22,400$...The car also had the dimming/compass mirror, all weather floor mats and cargo net, which they claim were additional extras, but I refused to pay extra...they are such scammers. There was a 296$ fee at the end, which I'm thinking was a bs doc fee, but I didn't feel like arguing anymore...live and learn! All and all, it was still a good deal getting it under invoice price even with the fee...again unsure if it was legit. Bought it at Subaru dealer in Hicksville, NY...hop
e this helps
#957 of 1005 2013 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium
by vballplayer30
Oct 01, 2012 (6:13 pm)
I just negotiated the 2013 Legacy premium with the all weather package for 22,400$ for my parents...The car also had the dimming/compass mirror, all weather floor mats and cargo net, which they claim were additional extras, but I refused to pay extra...they are such scammers. There was a 296$ fee at the end, which I'm thinking was a bs doc fee, but I didn't feel like arguing anymore...live and learn! All and all, it was still a good deal getting it under invoice price even with the fee...again unsure if it was legit. Bought it at Subaru dealer in Hicksville, NY...
MY TIPS FOR BUYING YOUR NEW CAR
ok, just negotiated and bought the car for my parents today so everything is fresh
1) Look around for the car/s you want, but don't buy that day...ideally search 1-2 wks before the end of the month. If you like a specific car on that lot, find out what extras are on that car and what extras you do or do not want. When negotiating later, they can't take off the moon roof, nav, etc. They can order the car, but it could take 8 wks. You may have to buy the car with the extras if you don't want to wait, so consider all this before hand.
2) Search for prices paid in edmunds forums and the new car section to get an idea of the lowest price. Also search kelly blue book and truecar.com. Don't forget to add in ALL the extras that they say the car has...again, you may have to buy the car with the extras or wait wks for a factory ordered car. They will prob make you a better deal on the car on the lot.
3) Figure out your grand total...ie price of the car you want to spend with all extras (nav, moonroof, whatever), plus taxes, and other LEGIT fees associated with the car...look up online for legit and whats typical in your area. They got us for a 296$ fee...unsuer if it was legit, but after 4 hrs...didn't want to negotiate anymore...this is 1 of there clever/slimy tricks!!
4) Armed with all your price info., go to the dealer on the LAST DAY OR 2 of the month. (They are trying to reach their quotas so you will have your best luck in getting the lowest price!)
Don't waste time with the salesman...they will try to crunch numbers with you and go over other bs...the mgr makes the final decisions, so immediately ask the sales rep to get the mgr because "you're ready to buy".
5) Once he gets there, tell him you did all your research and have narrowed your search down to his car and 1-2 others. Here is my "OUT THE DOOR PRICE" with taxes, fees, etc. Tell him you will not waste anytime discussing, bartering, or negotiating and STICK TO IT!!! "Here's my price...you've got 2 minutes to decide!" If he says, "he can't go below invoice...he runs back to his office with various printouts saying look at what this and that costs...says, but I'm giving you the floor mats and cargo nets, I have to make something, etc, etc, etc, etc...(he would not stop)" Then say, "thanks anyway, I'm gonna go buy that new lexus!"
If you did your homework and priced the car well (the forums from here are prob the most helpful and def the most accurate), you should get the deal without the headache of sitting there for 4 hrs like we did! DON"T be afraid to walk out, and be prepared to do so if ANYTHING is not what you wanted. Any additional fees or waste of your time then leave. The moment we got up to actually leave, he said give me a price and was ready to sign off...and did!!! Remember, it's the end of the month and they need to reach their quota!
On a side note, we were paying cash, but agreed to finance as this made him some extra cash. It didn't effect us because we are paying it off in 3 payents in the first 37 days so there is no finance charge for us (of course we got that in writing as should you). You could possibly do this with your deal as they make money and as long as you pay it off, it won't cost you anything, but provides additional bargaining power... Hope all this helps!
#958 of 1005 2013 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Sedan, 4 door
by blin279
Oct 01, 2012 (9:48 pm)
"Hey Blin, what was your final price and did it include taxes and fees?"by vballplayer
Hi Vballplayer,
Sale price was $22,074 before tax.+ tax (7.75%) +$250 doc fee + $78.25 title & registration. Total: ~$24,113. MSRP: $24,196. Brunswick Subaru, OH.
It has Option Package 2/All-Weather Package, two sets of mats, home link/auto-dim mirror, plastic cargo tray in the trunk. I think that tray is a little more useful and practical than cargo net.