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Subaru Legacy, Sedan, Wagon
#863 of 1010 Re: CPO 2010 Limited 4cyl [longislander1]
Apr 05, 2011 (8:45 am)
What was odd to me was that the Kia is supposed to be the sportier one. I can't imagine what the Sonata is like, then.
To be fair, most cars in this class are boring, with few exceptions. The Legacy was not, though.
Not to negate the positives about the Sonata, but the Optima also had poor rear visibility.
A Subaru without AWD is like non-alcoholic beer.
Hyundai's powertrain is great, but like I said, my complaints were in other areas, mostly subjective. 274hp with numb steering and isolated handling are not a good combination at all. They need a sporty version and a manual trans to boot.
#864 of 1010 Legacy 2.5i Premium w AWP
Apr 25, 2011 (8:36 am)
I used this Forum before my purchase, so figured I give back.
I bought my Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium with All Weather Package for 21500 + 400 documentation fee. With TTL it was 24K. NYC area.
#865 of 1010 Re: CPO 2010 Limited 4cyl [ateixeira]
Apr 25, 2011 (10:09 am)
Your comments probably point out the fact that two different people can have different reactions to the same car. It doesn't mean either one is wrong. I haven't driven the Kia, but I certainly found the Hyundai comparable in handling to my '08 Legacy Limited and the '11 Legacy Premium that was my last dealer loaner. At the NY auto show last week, I had a chance to do a close examination of the Sonata hybrid and that will probably be my next car. I'm willing to give up AWD for the better looks, extra luxury, additional room (interior and trunk) and superior gas mileage and warranties. If you put that hybrid next to a current Legacy, the latter simply looks old and out of date. I also had a chance to look at the new Impreza and, while it's better-looking than the last model, it's still a really boring design. Subaru may be selling well now and it's attempting to boost sales in warmer climates, but the competition is invading its territory. There are now more AWD choices and a number of other brands in the price range are matching its five-star crash ratings and exceeding its technology. Subaru was supposed to do a hybrid using Toyota technology, but we've heard nothing about that recently. It'll be offering Toyota's new small sports car, but it will be RWD and not AWD. It's getting a lot tougher to remain a Subaru loyalist when the brand isn't keeping up with the competition or maintaining its unique position in the market.
#866 of 1010 Re: CPO 2010 Limited 4cyl [longislander1]
Apr 26, 2011 (9:49 am)
Funny thing is I don't mind a conservative interior, in fact I'd prefer to take risks in exterior styling vs. a flashy interior where I can't find the buttons. To me ergonomics > styling.
Having said that, the Kia's interior was fine, in fact it sort of looked old school compared to Hyundai's edgier design.
#867 of 1010 Re: CPO 2010 Limited 4cyl [ateixeira]
Apr 26, 2011 (10:36 am)
If I had my druthers, I'd like to see the Kia's exterior, the Hyundai's interior and the Subaru's AWD and safety, all in a hybrid. That would be my ideal car. BTW, I like the new Legacy's interior design a lot and it's a real improvement over my '08. It's the exterior that leaves me flat, both on the Legacy and (especially) the Outback. I'm guessing Subaru thinks it needs the conservative design to appeal to us quirky buyers, but we like good design, too.
#868 of 1010 Re: CPO 2010 Limited 4cyl [longislander1]
Apr 26, 2011 (11:57 am)
I'll take the Hyundai warranty, the Kia price, and the Subaru vehicle! LOL
Maybe the Sonata's MPG as well....
#869 of 1010 2011 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium (Acton, MA)
May 04, 2011 (7:07 am)
Have gotten good info from the fourm & wanted to give back. Here are the details of my recent purchase - 5/1/11
2011 Legacy Sedan 2.5i Premium
All weather package
Auto-dim mirror (dealer install)
Remote start (dealer install)
$24500, $25600 w/tax, registration and destination fees
Village Subaru - Acton MA
#870 of 1010 Re: 2011 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium (Acton, MA) [amurray22]
May 04, 2011 (7:42 am)
Nice purchase, Andy! Good luck with your new Legacy. I like the Premium level, but would prefer leather upholstery. Yesterday, I did a double take at my dealer when I saw an Outback Premium with leather. It turns out the dealer installed Katzkin (a good brand of aftermarket leather upholstery) covers and added $1,499 to the cost of the car. While that's not cheap, I was really impressed with the fit and finish of the leather. It seems to be slightly superior to the factory leather seats and posters on the Legacy forum say they wear like iron. I have no connection to Katzkin, but was impressed enough to pass on the information here. At least there's now an option for leather without having to upgrade to the Limited.
#871 of 1010 Re: 2011 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium (Acton, MA) [amurray22]
May 05, 2011 (10:11 am)
Congrats, Andy. CVT or manual?
#872 of 1010 Bought a Legacy last night
May 29, 2011 (6:33 am)
Bought a 2011 Legacy last night with optional winter package. Car is pzev, has auto-dimming mirror, homelink, body-side moldings, splash guards - a nice overall package. Used Overstock.com to negotiate the base price down to $19,500, added the winter package for $500, dealer handling, taxes and fees and walked out the door for 23,000 on the dot. This price included a trade in of my old, beat up 1995 volvo 850 with unknown miles (odometer stuck on 127,000 for the last 5 years). All in all I feel good about the deal. But you know how it is, you always think you could have done better!