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Subaru Legacy, Sedan, Wagon
#792 of 1005 Re: 2009 Legacy - too good to be true? [bruuklin]
Dec 30, 2009 (11:23 am)
I use mine as a daily driver and have no kids. However, here are the caveats:
1. The back seat is small for adults, especially for long trips. It should be fine for two kids for a while. Any more kids and you need to go larger.
2. The trunk is quite large for the car's size, although it depends on how much room you need for folding crib, etc.
3. While the four cylinder is great for daily driving, it becomes sluggish as soon as you add two adults to the back. And that's without adding anything in the trunk. I recently loaded up the trunk with beer and soda for a party. It was just myself in the passenger compartment and you could really feel that you were hauling around a load.
Husbands have to stick together, but your wife might be right on this one. If you must have a Subaru and/or all-wheel drive, you could take a look at a used Outback, which gives you a little more flexibility, or a new base Legacy, which gives you more room. Truecar.com is showing a good price for a base legacy at around $20,600, so you might have to stretch the budget a bit.
#793 of 1005 Re: longislander? [dandydonii]
Dec 30, 2009 (11:39 am)
I guess it depends on the region. Here in NY, I'm betting that January will be a bleak month for car dealers as people recover from the holidays, deal with bad weather, still struggle with the economy, etc. (although, nationally, I do know that Subaru has been doing pretty well, sales-wise). Buying a car in your area may be a whole different matter, given the different climate. Around here, even a light snow can kill showroom traffic. I'm only suggesting to the poster that his target car will probably be around in January, possibly at a lower price. Having seen '08 and '09 SEs advertised new for high $18K to low $19K at the end of their respective model years, I know it would kill me to pay $19K for a used '09 now.
There should be plenty of room for negotiation. As an example, Subaru was offering me around $16,250 for my '08 Limited under its guaranteed buyback program, yet my local dealer is now advertising an '08 SE for $20,300 that was turned in under the same program. When you factor in the differing equipment on the two cars, the previous owner probably got something in the high $15K range. That's a pretty big spread.
#794 of 1005 Re: 2009 Legacy - too good to be true? [bruuklin]
Dec 30, 2009 (12:05 pm)
To be brutally honest, you don't need a bigger sedan, you need a station wagon, or something with a big trunk (crossover, SUV).
Kids take up more cargo space than adults do. Far, far more.
The back seat of the Legacy is plenty big. An Accord's bigger back seat will make no difference whatsoever.
Now go to the trunk - the stroller, the diaper bag, the port-a-crib, the port-a-potty, the luggage, the plastic bath tub thingy, the high chair, etc. Will all that fit?
I say go for a Legacy wagon, especially since they existed until 2009.
Or you could get a new Forester 2.5X. That has a bigger back seat plus more cargo room. Or a base 2010 Outback, also very roomy with tons more cargo space.
My wife wanted a sedan back in 2002, she was pregant with our 2nd. I grabbed our stroller from the Forester, put it in the trunk, showed her it was already full.
She changed her mind, just like that. We got a 2002 Legacy wagon. She traded it recently for a 2009 Forester. Perfect size for 2 kids.
#795 of 1005 Re: 2009 Legacy - too good to be true? [ateixeira]
Dec 30, 2009 (12:17 pm)
Did you get the 2.5X? Does it have enough features to age well?
#796 of 1005 Re: 2009 Legacy - too good to be true? [bruuklin]
Dec 30, 2009 (2:03 pm)
What does anyone think of a 2005 Outback XT, low mileage (only 30K) for $16K? Not certified. Warranty obviously expired. Clean carfax.
#797 of 1005 2005 Outback for $16K
Dec 31, 2009 (8:31 am)
I don't remember where in the country you are, but that's probably not a bad number. At first I thought it a bit high but only because I moved from Austin TX, and it would be way high there. But now I live near Ft Collins Colorado and around here you have a hard time finding Subies in the 3-5 year bracket. I guess the dealers have them but I only look at private parties for used cars.
I think there are TWO 05 and 06 Outbacks on Craigslist here and in Denver from private parties and they're $16K and $18K. A friend in Austin just bought an 05 for about $8 or $9K a month or so back, but it was a five speed. Depending on how far you want to drive you may take a look at the places where there is not such a heavy demand for used Subies.
#798 of 1005 Re: 2009 Legacy - too good to be true? [bruuklin]
Jan 02, 2010 (7:43 am)
We got the 2.5X Limited. But we used $1600 in Subaru Bucks to bring the price down from about $25k to $23.5k or so.
There's an idea - get a Chase Subaru credit card, and start earning 3% back. Too late to help pay for the car, but you can pay for service with it.
We've had the Forester a year and a half and have already accumulated another $800 in Subaru Bucks. I can pay for tires, accessories, service, whatever.
That directly lowers our ownership cost. It could help you stretch your budget a bit.
The Premium is a great value at about $23.5k nowadays. I know it's a bit beyond your budget, though. A new base 2.5X is right in your $20k range, though.
#799 of 1005 Any one tried Costco buying?
Jan 03, 2010 (10:47 am)
I'm looking at either the prem. Legacy with options or a Limited-2.5, non-turbo anyone tried the costco buying program to get their Subaru? (I'm the Portland Or. area)
Feb 15, 2010 (8:03 pm)
my wife and i looking at the legacy 3.6 R premium
how much are they knocking off?
it says some people are getting it invoice, but how do I know that invoice is that price they say it is??
the car comes to MSRP with destination at $26695
you think they will take off $4000 off? $3000 maybe?
#801 of 1005 Re: 3.6 R Premium [linkfeeney3]
Feb 16, 2010 (3:17 pm)
You should find the invoice price at edmunds.com ... currently invoice is about the price dealer will deal. There is VIP program that is invoice - 2%... you join a club like "Leave No Trace" with min of 6 months then you can request that letter and bring to dealer to lock in VIP program withour any negotiations. Also qualify for any rebate, incentive and options / add-ons are also in invoice -2% pricing, then add dealer doc fee & TT&L
This is also good for factory ordering on the exact car you want.