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Re: first time buyer [crapshoot] by robsis
Feb 22, 2009 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: crapshoot (Feb 22, 2009 5:32 pm)

Well, I'm in Flagstaff, AZ and Subies are at a premium here due to the AWD; however, the GTs with their requirement of premium fuel are a little down as our fuel prices here are pretty high.....and that price you were quoted just seemed waaaay out of line, expecially considering that there are still 08's around at all...
 
Good luck in your quest.....(BTW, the HK stereo and the dark carpet are great reasons to get an 09!)
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Re: first time buyer [robsis] by crapshoot
Feb 23, 2009 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: robsis (Feb 22, 2009 8:03 pm)

again thank you.
 
and since you brought up the point about the '09's...
have you heard anything about prices on those? the GT specifically.
 
yes, i have newbie car buyer written all over me...
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First Time Subaru Buyer by dascud
Mar 07, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Hi,
 
We are thinking of starting a family soon and wanted to get a 4 door sedan to replace my old & trustworthy Mazda Protege. My other car is a 325ci so we definitely need a 4 door. I have been looking around at 328i/330i CPOs, c300s and volvo S80s which are very attractively priced now given the state of the economy.
 
A subaru legacy was not even in my radar until I saw one at a local dealer.
This is a 2008 3.0R with Navigation and has 6300 Miles on it. The dealer was asking for $23999 and with just basic negotiation I have the price down to $22000 + TTL.
 
This seems like a good deal on a well optioned car but the styling and looks hasnt blown me over and my wife seems quite prejudiced over the exterior. I have asked her to go on a test drive before she makes up her mind.
 
I know the other cars on my list do not really compete with the legacy esp given the AWD but I am in Norcal and the AWD is not that useful to us. I am going to go and TD the car again but is there anything I need to know that may tilt the balance one way or the other and also help convince my wife.
 
DaScud
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Re: First Time Subaru Buyer [dascud] by longislander1
Mar 07, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: dascud (Mar 08, 2004 10:44 am)

As the owner of two '08s (Outback LLBean Limited with NAV and a 2.5i Limited), I'll throw in my two cents (or three).
 
First, if you've been satisfied with the power and handling of a Protege, go test drive a new Legacy 2.5i Limited. It should give you enough power, it has the same interior and exterior as the 3.0 (except, maybe, for wheels and the nav) and you can get a new one for the same or less than you'd pay for the used 3.0. The '09 Limited has the upgraded Harmon Kardon sound system, while your '08 does not. Plus, with that kind of mileage on the 3.0, you may very well be looking at a car that was used as a dealer demo. Also, the factory NAV is just OK. If I had my druthers, I'd skip the NAV and just buy a nice Garmin (which you could also use in your BMW). The 3.0 uses premium gas and delivers lower mpg than the regular-gas Limited. And, finally, you -- like me -- have a sportier car for weekends, so you're shopping primarily for practicality. Still, as a guy who likes all his cars to handle well, I've been pleasantly surprised with the Limited as a daily driver.
 
Second is the safety issue, especially since you're starting a family. I don't think you'll find a safer car than Subaru in this price range. There's a well-known article by some fire chief stating that fire departments hate Subarus because the B-pillar is too thick and reinforced to be cut through with the Jaws of Life. Yes, you can find safety in Volvo, Audi, BMW, etc., but you'll pay more for the car and for service. Plus, my area is filled with older Subarus. If you keep a car a long time, you can be assured that Subarus last.
 
Third and finally, there's AWD. I live in a more rural part of the Northeast, so AWD was a no-brainer for me. Without AWD, your choices are wide open -- Mazda6, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry or one of the hybrids. They're all very good cars. Also, AWD robs some gas mileage. But, again, if safety is a consideration, I'd take Subaru over all the others in this price range.
 
As far as looks go, you and your wife should know that the Legacy is being redesigned for 2010. (This also means that you may be able to get a better deal on an '09.) You can probably see the concept photos if you do a Google search. There are mixed feelings about the new design. I like it. Plus, I hear that the 2010 is expected to have more rear legroom.
 
Good luck with your purchase. Let us know if you have any additional questions. If you want the minute details on Subaru, go to cars101.com for some great information.
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Re: First Time Subaru Buyer [longislander1] by dascud
Mar 08, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: longislander1 (Mar 07, 2009 11:21 am)

Tks for your detailed and thought out response.
 
The protege was the car I purchased as a poor grad student and it has served me well. It definitely feels underpowered but I have some sentimental attachment to it and held on to it for the past 8 years. As far as HP is concerned one can never have enough HP . The 245 HP of the Legacy should be just fine.
You mentioned that given the miles the legacy may have been a dealer demo. Is there something wrong with dealer demos ? as opposed to off leases.
 
I have looked at the 2010 legacy styling and its seems evolutionary and not something that I would wait for if I can find a good deal now.
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Re: First Time Subaru Buyer [dascud] by longislander1
Mar 08, 2009 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: dascud (Mar 08, 2009 8:17 am)

Happy to help. There are multiple schools of thought on dealer demos. Before I bought the Subie, I was thinking of purchasing an Audi A4 and many dealers around me were offering demos in the 5,000-8,000 mile range. I went for the new Subie after enough people convinced me that I shouldn't buy a demo. To me, it's like buying a rental car. Demos can be seriously abused because the driver is out to test the car's limits. Off lease cars, IMHO, are different because they become a daily driver for the person. Plus, there are penalties at the end of the lease if the car is abused or damaged. With all of this said, there's no way to tell how a used car was driven unless you can see the signs of actual wear. If you haven't done so already, ask the sales person about the history of the 3.0 and see if his/her response matches what you find on CarFax. Several years ago, I was searching for a CPO Lincoln town car for my dad. The sales person had several and he told me that all had been leased by private individuals. I was suspicious because I saw scratches at the bottom of the trunk opening and top of the bumper (signifying that luggage had been moved in and out of the trunk frequently). Sure enough, I was able to verify on my own that they had been rental cars. Having worked for a rental car company, I would avoid those like the plague.
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Lease Offer by liz15
Mar 08, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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My current Subaru lease is up at the end of the month. I am new to leasing and two years ago I know I did not get a fair price. I have been looking at the Acura TSX and like the car but they don't have AWD. So until I decide I asked the Subaru dealer to give me their offer should I lease another Subaru.
 
It's a Legacy 2.5i limited. Offer is 12,000 miles a year 36 month $299 a month before tax with $2,000 down. No lease loyalty offered.
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2.5GT Limited w VDC Offer by thmyauo22
May 16, 2009 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: liz15 (Mar 08, 2009 4:33 pm)

I just got an OTD offer of $28,898 on a '09 2.5GT Limited w/ VDC...is this a good deal?
 
Thanks!
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New Legacy 2.5i Limited by ben81
May 17, 2009 (4:50 am)
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I've never had a Subaru, and i'm looking to buy a new Legacy. Do you find that the 2.5i has enough pick-up, or should I go with the 3.0 Limited? I'll just it use for day to day driving, but am coming from an A4 that is a V6.
 
The car I am looking at is a 2.5i Limited with auto-dimming mirror & spoiler. Is $21,890 a good deal?
 
Thanks!
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Re: New Legacy 2.5i Limited [ben81] by longislander1
May 17, 2009 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: ben81 (May 17, 2009 4:50 am)

My benchmark for pricing has always been fitzmall.com for the best advertised online prices. Based on their offerings, your price is excellent if you're talking about a brand new '09. I own two '08s -- a Legacy 2.5i Limited and an Outback LLBean. I came from higher horsepower cars and drive a Porsche on weekends, so I have certain standards for performance. The Legacy is fine for daily driving and offers somewhat better mileage than the 3.0. Also, you need to check, but I believe the '09 3.0 needs premium gas, while the 2.5i uses regular.
 
I'm hooked on the Legacy as a daily driver. It's comfortable, handles well and has enough pep for expressway driving. However, if you don't care so much about rising gas prices and have a need to consistently carry three other people or a trunkload of stuff, you might consider the 3.0 instead. The 2.5i Legacy can be a little sluggish with a full load of people or stuff. What's odd is that I don't get the same feeling with our loaded Outback, even though it has the same engine.
 
As you've probably seen, the fit and finish of the Audi interior is better than the '09 Subaru's. If you need something better inside, you might consider waiting for the 2010 which, I believe, will be available starting in June. You won't get the same deals, but the interior has been upgraded and is closer to (although still does not match) Audi luxury. Also, the 2010 is expected to offer a higher output 3.0 with regular gas.
 
You will certainly save money with the Legacy over the Audi. I owned an A6, and while I loved the capuccino machine in the service waiting area, I paid through the nose for maintenance. By contrast, an oil change and a package of inspections at our Subaru dealer is $32.
 
Get your dealer to let you take the Limited for a reasonably long test drive on varying roads. That's what convinced me. Also be aware that, as you drive the Limited over a prolonged period, the car's computer will "learn" your driving style and perform shifts accordingly. I saw a noticeable positive difference in performance in the first few months. Either that, or I just got used to living with and enjoying the Legacy.
 
Good luck with your purchase.

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