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Subaru Legacy, Sedan, Wagon
#704 of 1010 first time buyer
Feb 22, 2009 (3:56 pm)
you guys sound like you know what you're talking about. could you guys give me your opinion on this dealer's offer? is he being straight up?
2008 Subaru legacy 2.5 GTLimited.
current options it has installed are:
* All Weather Floor Mats
* Auto-Dimming Mirror w/Compass
* Off Black Center Armrest Extension
Out the door would be $30,300.
0% for 2 years.
It's a test drive car with about 40 miles on it.
Given the economic climate, you think he could do better?
Thanx for any info!
#705 of 1010 Re: [yotr]
Feb 22, 2009 (5:09 pm)
Our 09 Legacy Ltd is also Satin Pearl...We just love the color, too!
As to the non-pressure, methinks they just wanted to sell you a car, and saw this as the way to do it.
#706 of 1010 Re: first time buyer [crapshoot]
Feb 22, 2009 (5:11 pm)
Sounds high to me...when we were shopping, they had several 08 GTs at $27-28k OTD....but it does all depend on your local market.
#707 of 1010 Re: first time buyer [robsis]
Feb 22, 2009 (5:32 pm)
that was my feeling too, but i wasn't sure.
really appreciate your input.
i'm looking in ny metro area by the way...
#708 of 1010 Re: first time buyer [crapshoot]
Feb 22, 2009 (8:03 pm)
Well, I'm in Flagstaff, AZ and Subies are at a premium here due to the AWD; however, the GTs with their requirement of premium fuel are a little down as our fuel prices here are pretty high.....and that price you were quoted just seemed waaaay out of line, expecially considering that there are still 08's around at all...
Good luck in your quest.....(BTW, the HK stereo and the dark carpet are great reasons to get an 09!)
#709 of 1010 Re: first time buyer [robsis]
Feb 23, 2009 (8:14 am)
again thank you.
and since you brought up the point about the '09's...
have you heard anything about prices on those? the GT specifically.
yes, i have newbie car buyer written all over me...
#710 of 1010 First Time Subaru Buyer
Mar 07, 2009 (10:49 am)
We are thinking of starting a family soon and wanted to get a 4 door sedan to replace my old & trustworthy Mazda Protege. My other car is a 325ci so we definitely need a 4 door. I have been looking around at 328i/330i CPOs, c300s and volvo S80s which are very attractively priced now given the state of the economy.
A subaru legacy was not even in my radar until I saw one at a local dealer.
This is a 2008 3.0R with Navigation and has 6300 Miles on it. The dealer was asking for $23999 and with just basic negotiation I have the price down to $22000 + TTL.
This seems like a good deal on a well optioned car but the styling and looks hasnt blown me over and my wife seems quite prejudiced over the exterior. I have asked her to go on a test drive before she makes up her mind.
I know the other cars on my list do not really compete with the legacy esp given the AWD but I am in Norcal and the AWD is not that useful to us. I am going to go and TD the car again but is there anything I need to know that may tilt the balance one way or the other and also help convince my wife.
#711 of 1010 Re: First Time Subaru Buyer [dascud]
Mar 07, 2009 (11:21 am)
As the owner of two '08s (Outback LLBean Limited with NAV and a 2.5i Limited), I'll throw in my two cents (or three).
First, if you've been satisfied with the power and handling of a Protege, go test drive a new Legacy 2.5i Limited. It should give you enough power, it has the same interior and exterior as the 3.0 (except, maybe, for wheels and the nav) and you can get a new one for the same or less than you'd pay for the used 3.0. The '09 Limited has the upgraded Harmon Kardon sound system, while your '08 does not. Plus, with that kind of mileage on the 3.0, you may very well be looking at a car that was used as a dealer demo. Also, the factory NAV is just OK. If I had my druthers, I'd skip the NAV and just buy a nice Garmin (which you could also use in your BMW). The 3.0 uses premium gas and delivers lower mpg than the regular-gas Limited. And, finally, you -- like me -- have a sportier car for weekends, so you're shopping primarily for practicality. Still, as a guy who likes all his cars to handle well, I've been pleasantly surprised with the Limited as a daily driver.
Second is the safety issue, especially since you're starting a family. I don't think you'll find a safer car than Subaru in this price range. There's a well-known article by some fire chief stating that fire departments hate Subarus because the B-pillar is too thick and reinforced to be cut through with the Jaws of Life. Yes, you can find safety in Volvo, Audi, BMW, etc., but you'll pay more for the car and for service. Plus, my area is filled with older Subarus. If you keep a car a long time, you can be assured that Subarus last.
Third and finally, there's AWD. I live in a more rural part of the Northeast, so AWD was a no-brainer for me. Without AWD, your choices are wide open -- Mazda6, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry or one of the hybrids. They're all very good cars. Also, AWD robs some gas mileage. But, again, if safety is a consideration, I'd take Subaru over all the others in this price range.
As far as looks go, you and your wife should know that the Legacy is being redesigned for 2010. (This also means that you may be able to get a better deal on an '09.) You can probably see the concept photos if you do a Google search. There are mixed feelings about the new design. I like it. Plus, I hear that the 2010 is expected to have more rear legroom.
Good luck with your purchase. Let us know if you have any additional questions. If you want the minute details on Subaru, go to cars101.com for some great information.
#712 of 1010 Re: First Time Subaru Buyer [longislander1]
Mar 08, 2009 (8:17 am)
Tks for your detailed and thought out response.
The protege was the car I purchased as a poor grad student and it has served me well. It definitely feels underpowered but I have some sentimental attachment to it and held on to it for the past 8 years. As far as HP is concerned one can never have enough HP . The 245 HP of the Legacy should be just fine.
You mentioned that given the miles the legacy may have been a dealer demo. Is there something wrong with dealer demos ? as opposed to off leases.
I have looked at the 2010 legacy styling and its seems evolutionary and not something that I would wait for if I can find a good deal now.
#713 of 1010 Re: First Time Subaru Buyer [dascud]
Mar 08, 2009 (8:53 am)
Happy to help. There are multiple schools of thought on dealer demos. Before I bought the Subie, I was thinking of purchasing an Audi A4 and many dealers around me were offering demos in the 5,000-8,000 mile range. I went for the new Subie after enough people convinced me that I shouldn't buy a demo. To me, it's like buying a rental car. Demos can be seriously abused because the driver is out to test the car's limits. Off lease cars, IMHO, are different because they become a daily driver for the person. Plus, there are penalties at the end of the lease if the car is abused or damaged. With all of this said, there's no way to tell how a used car was driven unless you can see the signs of actual wear. If you haven't done so already, ask the sales person about the history of the 3.0 and see if his/her response matches what you find on CarFax. Several years ago, I was searching for a CPO Lincoln town car for my dad. The sales person had several and he told me that all had been leased by private individuals. I was suspicious because I saw scratches at the bottom of the trunk opening and top of the bumper (signifying that luggage had been moved in and out of the trunk frequently). Sure enough, I was able to verify on my own that they had been rental cars. Having worked for a rental car company, I would avoid those like the plague.