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Re: Another question [jmpage2] by longislander1
Feb 25, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: jmpage2 (Feb 25, 2008 8:54 am)

I believe the Legacy will get a major redesign for the 2010 model year. My salesman confirmed that when he said they change every 5 years. I'm guessing they'll be introduced about a year from now. That was the pattern for the revised '09 Forester, which, I believe, is just being introduced about now.
If there are any facelifts to the '09 Legacy, they'll probably be minor. You can also go to cars101.com and ask the site's host, Joe Spitz, what he's heard.
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Re: Another question [longislander1] by jmpage2
Feb 25, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: longislander1 (Feb 25, 2008 10:27 am)

Thanks for the info. My wife's current car is leased so unfortunately the choices are buy hers out at the end of the lease (and she doesn't want to do that) or lease/buy something new for her by May.
 
My primary concern was that the '09 MY would come out around the May timeframe and it would become difficult to still get an '08 in the color/options that she wanted. My experience with other manufacturers is that they will let inventory get very lean right up until the new ones come out, so that they don't have to offer as many incentives.
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Re: Long Island Interest [hackd] by hackd
Feb 27, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: hackd (Feb 19, 2008 11:44 am)

You will be happy to know we got the same price as I purchased the below today for $22,900. I basically contacted all the Long Island dealers for about a week and going lower then this price was not happening. Your info helped to at least get a target point for what I knew was a good price. Like you it was actually nice to buy from a dealership that didn't have rock music blasting and a sales manager coming over trying to close the deal. I chose over the Altima SL basically due to the safety of AWD and the handling...car has some attitude when pushed which is rare for this kind of segment.
 
Subaru Legacy Limited w/VDC
Diamond Grey
Arm Rest Extension
Auto Dimming Mirror/Compass
Splash Guards
All Weather Floor Mats
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Re: Long Island Interest [hackd] by ateixeira
Feb 28, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: hackd (Feb 27, 2008 5:51 pm)

Congrats. Great price for all that equipment.
 
Some friends of mine bought an Altima and let me drive it. I liked it, but the seats seemed very low to the ground. Visibility wasn't as good as I'm used to.
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Re: Long Island Interest [hackd] by longislander1
Feb 28, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: hackd (Feb 27, 2008 5:51 pm)

You actually did a bit better because you also got the splash guards and mats. That's about $130 if you buy them aftermarket.
 
I agree with you about the power. At first, I thought the car was a little underpowered and that I'd just have to deal with it to get the gas mileage. Now that I'm a little more used to the gearing (and have adapted my driving style to it), I'm really fine with the 170hp and rarely need to use the sport mode. The only issue I have is wind buffeting and a little loss of stability at higher speeds. On other forums, some have suggested upgrading the front end bushings. I'm going to talk to the service manager about that, since they also do suspension mods.
 
Best of luck with yours. Did you end up at North Coast?
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Re: Long Island Interest [longislander1] by hackd
Feb 28, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: longislander1 (Feb 28, 2008 9:16 am)

I stayed local...Huntington. I am coming from a 2001 Protege ES so this car won't require any modifications for me. I will let this car spoil me so I can find faults in my next one down the line.
 
Question...I want to add the Sirius radio but even though the car is pre-wired they still want to charge $450 to put it in. I called a local car audio place who confirmed Subaru must install if pre-wired. Were you given a quote or know if other dealers may charge less?
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Re: Long Island Interest [hackd] by ldxk
Jul 07, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: hackd (Feb 27, 2008 5:51 pm)

hackd, is the $22900 before or after ttl price of your legacy limited?
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Re: [ateixeira] by pilot1226
Jul 11, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 02, 2003 7:01 am)

Using the automatic sportshift will result in increased wear and tear? Or are you just saying that because you'll be using engine compression and higher tachs since you're in control of the transmission?
 
Also, anyone heard anything good/bad/otherwise about Lynnes' Nissan Subaru of Bloomfield, NJ? Their sales agent I spoke to was kind of stumbling (told me the 2009 Legacy wouldn't be out till October, wrong!), but their prices seemed to be on the better side as I left the dealership (manager offered to get the 08 Legacy 2.5i SE down into the 19's before tax/title/delivery/etc)
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Re: [pilot1226] by just_phil
Jul 11, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: pilot1226 (Jul 11, 2008 9:24 am)

I had a rather negative experience at Lynnes. I made an appointment to test drive the car, but when I showed up, the saleswoman wasn't there. Another one offered her help, but the car was on the showroom floor, with the dead battery. Anyway, since I was serious about buying it, I insisted on driving it. Then she came with a '.. sorry, we only have 3 sets of tags, and all 3 are out right now, so we can't test drive it...' nonsense. Also, their invoice price included destination charge twice, to which they wouldn't admit. Two days later I got the same car (except black interior rather than white) from Lucas Subaru in Avenel (not that that was a perfect transaction, but you didn't ask about Lucas ).
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Re: [ateixeira] by pilot1226
Jul 12, 2008 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 21, 2003 1:08 pm)

Hey,
 
I'm considering purchasing (financing) the new 2009 Legacy 2.5i SE now that they're out near me (northern NJ).
 
I've never purchased a new car before (my 2000 Honda was a graduation gift from high school) and I had a few questions.
 
I found this website: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/legacy/legacy2009.html#price
 
This seems to show that the dealer's invoice for the 2.5i SE Automatic is PZEV: $21,402 including destination fees.
 
My question and concerns and experiences have been:
1. Test drove the `08 Legacy 2.5i SE in early June. The only color I want is the Obsidian Black, and the dealerships near me did not have any in stock. They were also unable to track one down for me without a deposit.
2. A game of phone tag continued for a few weeks until I finally told the sales agent that I will wait for the 2009's because I wanted the better audio and VDC if I was buying a new car.
3. I received a call today, and the sales agent wanted me to leave a deposit over the phone. I refused, on basis that if I put down a 100.00 deposit without negotiating the price, they can then say the car is worth 30,000 and basically extort me out of my deposit.
 
I imagine that in the next few weeks I'll now go to that local dealership, test drive the 2009 SE just for grins & giggles, then I'll have to talk money with the people. Unfortunately, they said I don't qualify for 0% financing (at least on my own, I wanted to leave my wife off of the loan for the time being - they refused to let me test drive until they ran my credit), but I'm okay with other rates as they add only a few dollars a month.
 
I am assuming they're going to be looking for a deposit again, that seems to be the way to do business at this dealership. I'm pretty much not going to leave one until they 1. Appraise my trade-in Civic, which is anywhere from 3800-5000 from the dealer's blue book (we discussed the value of my trade when I did the first test drive) and 2. negotiate a price.
 
Back to main topic, if the dealer's invoice is $21,402, I'd like to know what exactly this price is. Is it the "the dealer paid this much money for the car, and if they sell it for anything less, they're losing money" price, or is this the "dealer expects to make a predetermined amount of profit off the car with this price."
 
What's the typical commission for the sales agents?
 
The MSRP on the vehicle is PZEV: $22,960 including destination. What kind of expectations should I have on the dealership trying to sell me the car (high 19's? low 20's?)
 
And lastly, what's the out-the-door price? I've heard this referred to a few times by people saying they got the car "out-the-door" for a certain amount. I'm guessing this is the price paid for the car + destination fees + titling/registration/etc fees + tax?
 
Tax in NJ is 7%, and assuming I do manage to negotiate for 20,000, we're talking a 1,400 tax on the car. Does tax apply to the whole sale price of 20,000, or does the value of the trade-in (say 4,200) and any down payment (say $800 for easy math), affect the tax - in other words, 15,000 * 7% tax instead of 20k?
 
Thanks, this is confusing as hell.

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