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Subaru Legacy Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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spoiler on 2008 legacy se sedan automatic by rudi2
Aug 02, 2007 (10:36 am)
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What's the opinion of the forum readers on spoilers...do they add or detract from the car?is it a negative on resale(because not everyone likes them)?since the car is a conservative design,does a spoiler belong on it or does it look like you're trying to turn a sedan into a sports car?I'm trying to decide between a 2008 with a spoiler and one without. Your views are appreciated.
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Re: pzev and effect on gas mileage [rudi2] by jeffmc
Aug 02, 2007 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: rudi2 (Aug 02, 2007 10:33 am)

I believe the MPG is the same for the PZEV vehicles. We average about 26-27 MPG overall in similar conditions to yours - about 70% highway, 30% city - with our '06 Legacy SE automatic. Our highway mileage has been better than expected... in fact, just yesterday I drove from Seattle to the Portland area and achieved about 35MPG using cruise control and going 65-75 (depending on the local limits). Obviously, your mileage may vary, but good economy is possible.
 
Spoiler? Really comes down to your personal preference. We don't have one on ours, but I think it looks fine on the car. (Personally, I'd prefer a spoiler if I had a turbo model, but no biggie either way to me.) As far as resale goes, I think you're just as likely to find folks who'll prefer a spoiler as folks who don't.
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Re: pzev and effect on gas mileage [jeffmc] by rudi2
Aug 02, 2007 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: jeffmc (Aug 02, 2007 12:49 pm)

THank you for your email...do you have a PZEC vehicle?That highway mileage is really great.
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Re: pzev and effect on gas mileage [rudi2] by ateixeira
Aug 02, 2007 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: rudi2 (Aug 02, 2007 10:33 am)

PZEV gives up I think 5hp, probably not noticeable, and has the same fuel economy ratings.
 
Forget all that, though, what matters is that because it's a PZEV the emissions warranty is MUCH longer, I think all that stuff is covered for 100k miles. I'm talking the cat and all the expensive emissions stuff.
 
That's worth getting a PZEV for all by itself.
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Re: pzev and effect on gas mileage [rudi2] by jeffmc
Aug 02, 2007 (10:22 pm)
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Replying to: rudi2 (Aug 02, 2007 12:56 pm)

Ours is not PZEV, but the next one will be. As more states are adopting those requirements, PZEVs are easier to get now.
 
We were pleased when we first achieved over the 30MPG hwy rating on our Legacy. We've noticed a small bump (1-2 MPG increase) as the engine has become "broken in" (15,000-19,000 miles), and this seems to be fairly common. If you drive in a gentle manner, I think it's possible to get good mileage. Of course, whenever we drive a bit more aggressively (say, stomping it on the freeway onramp), the MPG goes down.
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Re: pzev and effect on gas mileage [jeffmc] by ateixeira
Aug 03, 2007 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: jeffmc (Aug 02, 2007 10:22 pm)

If PZEV models are offered in MD we'd get one, too. In fact I hope the 2009 Forester comes with a PZEV powertrain.
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Re: pzev and effect on gas mileage [ateixeira] by jaffee
Aug 03, 2007 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 03, 2007 6:30 am)

Check out Heritage Subaru in Owings Mills, MD. Many of their models in their online list of inventory show PZEV. I don't know anything about the dealership though.
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Re: pzev and effect on gas mileage [jaffee] by ateixeira
Aug 07, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: jaffee (Aug 03, 2007 6:22 pm)

Interesting. It's not mandated in MD, though, so I wonder if it still gets the emissions warranty.
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2008 Legacy 6 cyl by logtrail
Aug 07, 2007 (3:51 pm)
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When is the 6 cylinder Legacy sedan going to be at the dealers?
Are they available anywhere?
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PZEV warranty by cptplt
Aug 07, 2007 (5:28 pm)
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the 08 brochures say the extended warranty only applies to cars in the states where PZEV is mandated

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