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#205 of 641 Bad Experience by red927 Nov 08, 2005 (1:01 pm)
This was originally posted on the Dealers' Tricks discussion.   I have to replace my wife's 03 Subaru Legacy GT since the lease is up at the end of December. Upon the recommendation of a friend, I went to Freehold Subaru (NJ) to get a price. I had done a great deal of research before and even got information from Car_man about the money factor and residual. I spoke to a sales person and explained what I was looking for and my time frame. He was very shocked that I did not want to test drive a car but he brought one around to look at.    The car he brought had equipment that I did not want (spoiler) and was not the proper color. I asked him about ordering from the factory (not swapping) and he said that I would have to give him a $1000 deposit and had to take the car.    I then asked him for some figures. He leaves and goes to see his manager who then calls me over. He enters some figures into his computer and tells me that he will lease me the car at absolutely NO PROFIT! He also states that I had to do this by 5:00 or the deal would go away. He also said that there were no 36 month leases from Subaru and I would have to go for a 39 month lease and that I would be able to return the car after 36 months to him, without having to worry about the remaining payments (?????). I kept telling him that I wasn't interested in that type of deal and besides his figures were off. The residual was too low and the money factor was also off. He said that thats what it was and I had to do it today. I thanked him and left as fast as I could.    I then went to the dealer I had gotten my previous Subarus from (Nitti) and got a 36 month lease, with the proper money factor and residual value. The price was $20/month less and the whole thing took maybe 10 minutes. What a difference!    Sorry to be so long winded, but I wanted to let people know to stay away from Freehold Subaru. Their tactics are from the dark ages.    Phil
#206 of 641 Which Subaru Wagon To Buy by marclj Nov 21, 2005 (10:13 am)
I've learned a lot about Subaru's from this forum and I know that someone out there will be able to help me.   I'm in the market for a sport wagon and have been doing a lot of research. I've narrowed my selection down to Subaru, but there's so many different types, I have to admit to a bit of confusion. Legacy, Forrester, Outback and Impreza all come in wagons and each model has like four different versions.   Does anyone know of a website that does a compare/contrast of all of them or what the major differences are between them? The Legacy seems to be the 'luxury' version, the Outback the 'rugged outdoors' one and the Forrester is the 'economy' one. The Impreza would be the 'sport' one? Have I got that right?   Thanks in advance for any guidance you can offer.
#207 of 641 comparisons by krzyss Nov 21, 2005 (10:21 am)
You can use edmunds to compare any vehicles, including Subarus to other Subarus but I think You got it right. Just one note: Outback is not 'rugged outdoors' but more of Legacy with high ground clearance or as rugged as most SUV owners would ever need The same is true for Outback Sport and Forester.   Krzys
#208 of 641 Differentiation by ateixeira Nov 21, 2005 (11:04 am)
I'm not sure I agree with your list.   Legacy is actually lesser-equipped compared to an Outback, plus some Outbacks have more insulation and a softer ride. It's arguably more luxurious.   The Legacy 2.5i is more basic, the GT is more sporty. Both are lower to the ground.   The Impreza 2.5i is their entry-level car, and isn't really that sporty. The WRX is, however. So I guess it depends on which model you refer to.   The Forester competes with small SUVs like the RAV4. It's the most upright, and has a lot more clearance than an Impreza, plus a square shape for really good cargo carrying capability.   Try this - first decide if you want small (Impreza), medium (Forester), large (Legacy/Outbcak), or extra large (Tribeca). I realize that overstates their sizes, but pick which size fits your need best.   Then decide if you need the extra ground clearance. That would push me towards a Forester, Outback, or Tribeca.   Then, finally, choose your price range, and see what you can afford in that range.   Test drive a few, they feel a lot different, even though they may look similar on paper.   -juice Replies to this message: cwbarrett (Nov 23, 2005 3:05 pm)
#209 of 641 side by side by stickguy Nov 21, 2005 (12:32 pm)
happened to be at the dealer today, and saw a legacy (standard) sedan parked next to an Outback sedan. basically, the OB looked like the regular sedan standing on it's tiptoes, or as if someone jack it up to raise the body up off the suspension.   The Forester is sorta a boxy, quasi-SUV wagon version of the Impreza. The outback is the jacked-up version of the Legacy.
#210 of 641 Re: Differentiation [ateixeira] by cwbarrett Nov 23, 2005 (3:05 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 21, 2005 11:04 am) I agree with juice. I owned a 2001 llb outback wagon and recently bought a 2006 Legacy sedan special edition. The llb had a smoother, more quiet ride.
#211 of 641 good value by stickguy Dec 07, 2005 (8:25 am)
Have an offer on the table for a Legacy 2.5i SE 5 speed. Not an eact match, but probably closest to an Accord EX cloth in content (power seat, moonroof, etc.).   MSRP is $23,200 (has a few trim options), and I was offered it for ~$200 below invoice, or $21,050. Deduct the 1K rebate, and I would be at $20,050.   Price wise, hard to argue, just have to decide if I like it (it's also not the color I wanted), so might be a tough call. Replies to this message: raybear (Dec 07, 2005 6:26 pm)
#212 of 641 Re: good value [stickguy] by raybear Dec 07, 2005 (6:26 pm)
Replying to: stickguy (Dec 07, 2005 8:25 am) Did the dealer present it as $200 below and give you the price as $21,050 or did you reach that conclusion yourself? I'm asking because you're off by about $1000 on the low side. Subaru doesn't have a $2200 profit loaded into the Legacy, that looks like the total with holdback.
#213 of 641 Ray by stickguy Dec 07, 2005 (7:38 pm)
this topic ended up running on 2 threads (my bad). I'll post my resopnse here also, since this is the better place for it.   according to Edmunds, there is just about 2K spread on that car. The deal was presented (I think) as 2% below invoice, which would be ~$400, but I believe there was also advertising fee tacked on.    I didn't actualy make the deal as invoice - anything. A friend had gotten that offer (the 2%), and they said they were doing the same for me.    In any case, I know the MSRP and the selling price, which is just about 2.2K below sticker, before the rebate.    I don't care what they say it is as related to invoice, I just care that it is a good deal that satisfies me. But, they sure ain't making much on the deal, but they made the offer to me, so who am I to argue. Replies to this message: raybear (Dec 08, 2005 4:55 am)
#214 of 641 Re: Ray [stickguy] by raybear Dec 08, 2005 (4:55 am)
Replying to: stickguy (Dec 07, 2005 7:38 pm) Edmunds posts the invoice including holdback, that's the discrepancy. Don't let it be of concern, it's still a great deal. 2% below is splitting the holdback with you, even if they have a doc fee that's in the hundreds you're still doing well.

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