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#21 of 777
2003 L Wagon by gearhead4
Sep 02, 2003 (8:10 am)
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In response to cracovian: Yes Subaru madse a limeted number of non SE Legacy sedans and wagons.
In June they had some of them sitting in the Factory parking lot. Your dealer could order one.
 
I was going to purchase one, but it would take 3 to 4 weeks to have it shipped to the dealer (this seems like a long time, especially given my dealer is located less than 200 miles from the factory).
 
Instead, I purchased a Legacy L SE wagon with the 4EAT trans that was sitting on the lot. I figure I paid 19750 before taxes. I am not sure, because they gave me $9000 trade in for my 2000 Legacy Sedan (5 speed, 25K miles mint condition).
 
I am skeptical about the SE package sunroofs. They are costly, steal headroom, look clunky and have the potential to develope leaks (Based upon my experience with a 88 Accord LXi with factory sunroof).
 
Subarus are good cars and the Legacy is the best kept secret for traction, handling, confort and fuel efficiency.
#22 of 777
by ateixeira
Sep 02, 2003 (11:30 am)
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The price of the SE package makes it a bargain, though. Don't you also get 16" alloy rims?
 
-juice
#23 of 777
Thanks for all the tips. by mayfair
Sep 02, 2003 (5:25 pm)
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I ran a report on Autocheck after posting. Couldn't hold my curiosity.
It was listed as being in an auction a couple of times, with the last one listed as "Reported at auction as manufacturer vehicle." whatever that means...
 
Thanks again for the tips about the manual and using "2" in snow. Now I can't wait for Winter to come.
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SE bargain by gearhead4
Sep 03, 2003 (5:26 am)
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juice,
 
Yes I have the 16" alloys, the leather wrapped steering wheel, gearshift, and fog lamps ... so the $900 price is okay.
But if there was a Legacy L SE with no sunroof(s), I would be willing to pay the same price for the Legacy without the holes in the roof.
 
Apparently this is not an option. What's more, it seems all 2004 Legacy models have sunroofs.
 
gearhead4
#25 of 777
by ateixeira
Sep 03, 2003 (8:26 am)
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Yeah, and now it's an Anniversary Edition, they dropped the L/SE name.
 
-juice
#27 of 777
Not wanting to make a bad choice!! by bunk1968
Sep 07, 2003 (4:30 pm)
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Hey, as you know if you read my other posts, I am thinking about purchasing a 2003 Legacy SE with 9600 miles on it. I am considering other used cars like the Honda Accord, VW Passat, and maybe even a NEW Civic Ex.
I have NO experience with Subaru's and know little about them. It seems that this car, which is described as-
 
"2003 Subaru Legacy AWD, Special Eddition Package, Silver, factory options include splash gurds, rear differential protector, air filtration system, auto-dimming mirror/compass, upgraded speakers with tweeter kit and Moon Roof, non-smoker owned and driven,"
 
- is a good deal??
If it came down to it, I would think that this would be a better deal than purchasing a new Civic EX, but I don't know.
Can anyone give and advice, and please tell me:
 1 - Do Subaru's have reliability like Honda's or Toyota's?
 2 - How bad can I expect my gas mileage to be in mixed driving with this car in consideration that it is all wheel drive??
I saw one person say they were getting 28mpg (which seems outstanding) and I saw where someone posted they were getting as low as 16 mpg. I am confused?
 3 - I found quite a few of these cars used for around $15000 to $17000 with less than 15000 miles on them, DOES THIS MEAN SOMETHING?? I COULD NOT FIND ANY ACCORDS LIKE THIS?? Do they have horrible resale value, are they cars that people do not enjoy once they get them, or worst of all, are they problematic?
 4 - Are the engines so bad that edmunds rates them 4 out of a possible 10 along with the trans. getting a 6 out of a possible 10??
 5 - Can All Wheel Drive be considered just something else that can go wrong if you don't need it? Well, more importantly does AWD mean that I will be paying for more maintenance or repairs than I would for a car that does not have AWD??
 
I really want to like this car and think it is a good deal, but All Wheel Drive is not extremely important to me. Is that the major reason for gettin this car? I thought it seemed like a nice car for the price and I figured that the AWD was a bonus as long as it did not affect the gas milage too much?
 
IF ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THESE CARS CAN SERIOUSLY ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, I WOULD TRULY APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
#28 of 777
To Bunk1968 by fabienne
Sep 07, 2003 (4:54 pm)
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Hi,
I just bought a 2004 Subaru Legacy L 35th Anniversary Ed. Sedan. I love it. I drove my 1991 Subaru Legacy L (only had FWD) for 13 years. It has 168,000 miles on it and still runs great. My dad uses it as a second car. In all that time the only real problem I had was an oxygen sensor that needed to be replaced (about half way through the life of the car). And even that wasn't a big deal.I was very happy with it. I think SUbaru makes a great car and even in rain, you will feel the difference with AWD. You won't get as good gas mileage as a Honda Civic but it is a more upscale car. I'm getting about 21-22MPG. I find it to be a really fun car to drive as well. Great manuverability and handling. Never had engine or transmission problems on my old one. Go for it.
Fabienne
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by ateixeira
Sep 08, 2003 (7:05 am)
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They were about $18-20k new, so $15-17k used with 15k miles is not bad resale. We paid $17,827 for our 2002 Legacy L (no SE package), for instance.
 
Our gas mileage is pretty good, about 25mpg overall. Never less than 22mpg.
 
They run nicely, you hardly notice the AWD except when you see other people slipping all over the road. The only added maintenance the the rear differential fluid, about as hard as going an oil change, once every 60k miles.
 
If it's a good deal, buy it. The SE package gives you 16" alloy rims, a moonroof, plus AWD and ABS are standard. That's more equipment than an Accord EX, which costs more and lacks AWD.
 
-juice
#30 of 777
Thank you by bunk1968
Sep 10, 2003 (8:14 pm)
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I have posted this same info on the Legacy board, so I hope you will all forgive me if you read it twice. I am just trying to get more opinions.
 
Thanks everyone for your responses to my questions. I really appreciate it.
I am still wondering, and worried, why edmunds rated the Legacies Engine and Trans so poorly.
I also don't understand why Consumer Reports gave the Legacies Emergency Handling a relatively low score??? This is an all wheel drive car, ISN'T HANDLING ITS' BENEFIT?? They also commented that it's emergency handling was tricky?
In addition to these questions if someone could tell me if having AWD also means having more maintenance or up keep, and ultimately having to spend more money on it, than a vehicle without?
And, last but not least, will someone tell me if there is a big difference in the GT and the L Special Edition? The L Special Edition I am looking at appears to have everything the GT does except Leather and a Spoiler, but I heard that the GT has a different suspension that makes it handle better, does this make a great difference?
Oh, and is this a good deal, I would prefer the GT, but this seems too good to pass up?:
 
"2003 Subaru Legacy AWD, Special Eddition Package, Silver, factory options include splash gurds, rear differential protector, air filtration system, auto-dimming mirror/compass, upgraded speakers with tweeter kit and Moon Roof, non-smoker owned and driven, Purchased Feb 2003, like new, list price $21,543 purchased for $20,888, asking $15900"
 
P.S. I really do appreciate all your comments!! I know it is hard to speculate resale or depreciation, but I wanted a general idea. I don't think anything compares with Honda for resale, and I am mainly worried about it because I have NEVER seen a Legacy on the road in Michigan. I plan on having the car for a while and I love that it is unique compared to everything else on the road, but I don't want a car no one wants when it is time to sell.

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