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#184 of 777 question to era174 by krzyss Oct 21, 2005 (4:29 am)
"1) all wheel drive : I got two near-accident experiences with front wheel drive cars in winter. "   Were you unable to accelerate?   Krzys Replies to this message: era174 (Oct 21, 2005 10:14 am) dwynne (Oct 21, 2005 12:08 pm) era174 (Oct 21, 2005 6:01 pm) and 2 more... krzyss (Oct 25, 2005 6:45 am) dwynne (Oct 25, 2005 10:01 am) and 2 more... era174 (Oct 30, 2005 2:48 pm)
#185 of 777 It's more than that... by ateixeira Oct 21, 2005 (7:08 am)
Put simply, you slip when torque > traction available. FWD is doubling the first number, so the chances you'll slip are much higher. I like how this site describes it:   http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/tractionuse2.html   vs.   http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/tractionuse4.html   This mostly applies going up hill, but the reserve of traction is there for any slippery situation.   It was funny, my sister was shopping Camry vs. Forester, but she test drove the Camry on a rainy day.   Guess which one she bought?   -juice Replies to this message: robr2 (Oct 21, 2005 7:16 am) ateixeira (Oct 21, 2005 7:18 am)
#186 of 777 Re: It's more than that... [ateixeira] by robr2 Oct 21, 2005 (7:16 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 21, 2005 7:08 am) I'll be the Forester. But I'll bet you applied a touch of pressure. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Oct 21, 2005 7:18 am)
#187 of 777 Re: It's more than that... [robr2] by ateixeira Oct 21, 2005 (7:18 am)
Replying to: robr2 (Oct 21, 2005 7:16 am) I didn't go with her, actually. I'm sure my experience with my own Forester had some influence, but she went with my dad to go car shopping.   Once she had made the decision, I got her to qualify for the VIP pricing program.   -juice
#188 of 777 Re: question to era174 [krzyss] by era174 Oct 21, 2005 (10:14 am)
Replying to: krzyss (Oct 21, 2005 4:29 am) Actually i tried to stop. The first car span around twice and stopped right before another car (probably on black ice). The second one skidded into a valley side on a mountain road (snow plowed already and clean) and stopped a few meters away from the valley. I'm a very cautious driver and I was driving very slowly in those two cases. No more front wheel cars for me. Replies to this message: dwynne (Oct 21, 2005 12:08 pm) era174 (Oct 21, 2005 6:01 pm) kyfdx (Oct 21, 2005 7:20 pm) ateixeira (Oct 22, 2005 4:39 pm) krzyss (Oct 25, 2005 6:45 am) dwynne (Oct 25, 2005 10:01 am) ateixeira (Oct 25, 2005 10:48 am) and 1 more... era174 (Oct 30, 2005 2:48 pm)
#189 of 777 Re: question to era174 [era174] by dwynne Oct 21, 2005 (12:08 pm)
Replying to: era174 (Oct 21, 2005 10:14 am) AWD does nothing to help you stop - a common mistake 4x4 and AWD drivers make. They go flying past you on a icy or snowy day and then down the road you pass them as they sit in the ditch.   ABS and stability control combined with good snow or snow/ice tires does a lot more for you than AWD does.   That said, I have an older ('96) Legacy wagon I use just snow days, ABS, AWD, and four snow/ice tires make it a "mountain goat". No DSC offered on that old of a car, however.   Dennis Replies to this message: era174 (Oct 21, 2005 6:01 pm) kyfdx (Oct 21, 2005 7:20 pm) ateixeira (Oct 22, 2005 4:39 pm)
#190 of 777 Re: all wheel ABS vs two wheel ABS: question to era174 [dwynne] by era174 Oct 21, 2005 (6:01 pm)
Replying to: dwynne (Oct 21, 2005 12:08 pm) Thanks for your info, dwynne. The salesperson I met today opened the hood and showed me the FOUR cables for ABS. He said Subaru AWD is all the better because it has all wheel ABS while front wheel ABS has just two wheel ABS (?) or something like that. I hope he's correct on that point. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Oct 21, 2005 7:20 pm) ateixeira (Oct 22, 2005 4:39 pm)
#191 of 777 Re: all wheel ABS vs two wheel ABS: question to era174 [era174] by kyfdx HOST Oct 21, 2005 (7:20 pm)
Replying to: era174 (Oct 21, 2005 6:01 pm) Nope.... just sales talk... Some pickup trucks have rear-wheel ABS only, but I'm pretty sure that every car with ABS is on all four wheels..   Stop over to this discussion.. Subaru Crew: 2005+ Subaru Legacy/Outback   for everything you ever wanted to know about the Subaru Legacy
#192 of 777 Re: all wheel ABS vs two wheel ABS: question to era174 [era174] by ateixeira Oct 22, 2005 (4:39 pm)
Replying to: era174 (Oct 21, 2005 6:01 pm) He may have pointed out the 4 channels and 4 sensors that make up every ABS system in Subarus. Some manufacturers use 3 channel ABS (1 channel for both rear wheels) to cut costs. Honda, for instance.   The ABS still works on all 4 wheels, though. It's 3 channel ABS, though.   2 wheel ABS has been used on some cheaper pickups because the rear brakes tend to skid when the bed is empty.
#193 of 777 '06 LL Bean by boogie95 Oct 22, 2005 (7:16 pm)
in Tennessee paid $29,163 after incentives. Was part of the Subie VIP program through my wife's work. Price included extras: equipment group 1E - the compass mirror with Homelink and all-weather mats.

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