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Subaru Forester, Wagon, SUV
#530 of 3625 2004 XT Auto in sept
Jan 15, 2005 (6:05 pm)
I purchased a Blue '04 X Auto no options for $17,500 including the NE rebate. I have driven it since september put 14,000 miles on it and I find same mileage forester X's for sale at cars.com for more than $17,000.
I e-mailed tri-city subaru at Dover, NH and asked the internet manager if he would take my offer. He called back and said yes only if I gave a $1000 deposit.
I picked it up the same day.
#531 of 3625 Re: Cost for 2005 xs 5 spd [suydam]
Jan 16, 2005 (8:30 pm)
I guess I should clarify, I have been in contact with Byers Subaru (not Byers Imports, although they are technically the same) and Hatfield. They have both come back and said they are willing to get rid of the advertising fee of $275. They were both so agreeable I was wondering how much more I can get them to come down on the price and still be reasonable.
Would asking $20,800 be out of the question? I don't want to get laughed out of there. I have not gone to see either dealership yet, as I have been negotiating via email.
Thanks for the help.
#532 of 3625 BOUGHT AN 05 X AUTOMATIC IN DEC.
Jan 17, 2005 (7:07 am)
Paid $19,800 delivered plus tax and tags for an 05 champagne gold automatic X with the following:
after market leather (looks terrific; side arms rests too)
arm rest extension
full set of nets side and back
cargo tray liner
I think I got a fair deal. Ths included the rebate. What do you think?
#533 of 3625 Re: Cost for 2005 xs 5 spd [mai]
Jan 18, 2005 (7:56 am)
Well, I think that I will be heading to the dealerships next week and offer them $20,800.
The one dealership is offering me my first year of maintenance free. I will see if I can get some options in lieu of the maintenance.
Wish me luck! I'll keep you all posted when I finally get the car...
Jan 22, 2005 (4:58 am)
Honestly, it sounds to me that you need to research the pricing a bit better. Check out the consumer reports guide. It costs $12 and is worth every penny b/c it arms you with the pricing for every option, kickback/holdback, rebates, etc.
As you mentioned the "advertising fee" is totally bogus...pure profit for them.
What I have found in Los Angeles is that everybody is willing to beat the other guys price. Don't let them make you feel bad as if you are cutting into their profits. Obviously the won't sell under what they pay for the vehicle and they have to eat. However, I paid for my 05 XT w/ PP and leather only $500 buck above invoice (this included the dealer kickback from Subaru).
Trust me the dealers will make money from the servicing of the cars. And any respectible dealer will never make you feel bad, even if you offer them a price below the invoice. They will kindly remind you of the fact.
Of note, this is for only the AUTOMATIC
xs $23,086 (dealer's invoice)
holdback is $735
bring the total to $22,351
so for a manual transmission, not too bad of a deal.
Best of luck.
#535 of 3625 Re: good pricing [etomidate]
Jan 22, 2005 (9:14 pm)
thanks for responding. I am going this tuesday and wednesday to test drive the car at the two different dealerships.
Would you suggest that I take $727 off that above price? That is the difference between the manual invoice and automatic invoice.
If so, should the xs 5 spd. asking price be roughly $20,324? ($21,051 - $727 for a 5 spd.)
Any help is greatly appreciated. If this is a more realistic asking price (instead of the $20,800 I was considering) then it is a big relief to read your post.
Thanks for your help and suggestions!
Jan 23, 2005 (9:27 am)
The prices you're considering offering are only a couple of hundred dollars apart, so I wouldn't sweat it. Also, you may not have as much negotiating room in Columbus, Ohio as you would in a larger urban area with more dealerships and competition. Sounds like you're doing everything right. Hope you get the car you want. Be careful about letting a year's free maintenance swing the deal, though. Subaru Dealer service is a problem in Columbus and you might not like the service where you buy the car and want to get dealer service somewhere else.
#537 of 3625 Please help a bad negotiator
Jan 24, 2005 (5:43 pm)
This is my first quote from a NJ dealer for a 2005 XT with manual....from an email I just received.
"....The vehicle that I am quoting you on is a Subaru Forester XT, premium package. The package includes: cargo tray, bumper cover, splash guards, auto dimming mirror/compass, security system upgrade, and cargo net.
$23,499.00 that is with the $1500 Rebate already taken off instead of the finance special......"
Should I try to do better.
Jan 25, 2005 (8:00 am)
Use Edmunds' TMV tool. If you're below that and they don't tack on fees when you buy it, I think you did fine.
#539 of 3625 my new '05 x
Jan 30, 2005 (5:58 am)
Ok, I know in previous posts I said I was going to buy the xs forester. Well, since I was not able to get the price I wanted, I decided to go back to my original choice of the x 5spd.
Here is what I got:
-'05 forester x 5spd. in green (woodland green?)
-all weather mats
$20,100 (not including tax, title etc), so with the $2,000 rebate, the price was $18,100. Not bad for my first car. I'm so excited because there was some snow in columbus yesterday (not much) so I get to test out the AWD!
Overall, it was a good buying experience, I went with Byers Subaru instead of Hatfield Subaru, b/c the Hatfield people were a bit pushy. They fed me the "you must come in by tonigt or the price is no longer good" line.
The internet sales guy at Byers was much nicer and the people were not pushy in the F&I dept.
This is my first new car purchase ever, I just graduated from college and this is a great first car for me I think. Thanks to all who gave me their two cents worth on this forum, it was extremely helpful when it came time to negotiate.