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#405 of 2765 Re: 05 Forester X auto lease figures [mazdax605] by p0926 Sep 12, 2004 (6:09 pm)
Replying to: mazdax605 (Sep 12, 2004 3:28 pm) I suspect that you don't really want to know what I think but since you asked...   a. "They were offering $1500 off until tomorrow" That's a classic high-pressure sales tactic and is usually total bunk. Especially since it's not the end of the month (when most promotions expire). The vast majority of the time, whatever deal you negotiate today is going to be just as valid tomorrow. Injecting a sense of urgency into the price negotiations is often used to coerce a buyer into making a rushed decision and one that they might avoid if afforded the opportunity to sleep on it.   b. Even the 05s are selling for significantly less than 5% over invoice so I would think you'd be able to get an 04 at close to straight invoice (and then subtract $1500). This sounds like another shifty sales tactic where the salesman tries to convince you that they would be losing money if they sold for less but neglects to mention that SOA is ponying up the $1500 rebate, not the dealer.   c. Finally, I am not a fan of leasing since it almost never makes sense financially. In fact, you even make a fairly convincing argument against it yourself by pointing out that kids can be rough on cars (and if it's leased that means more money out of your pocket down the road). Plus it doesn't make much sense to personalize your new ride by getting alloy wheels or installing a moonroof when you know that it doesn't really belong to you.   Okay after getting the negatives out of the way I'll end on a more positive note... the X is the value leader of the two and definitely gives you the most bang for the buck. The XS is nice but rear LSD and disk brakes don't make that much of a difference and if you don't need heated seats or mirrors, then there's no reason to pay extra for them.   -Frank
#406 of 2765 Reinforcing your decision... by ateixeira Sep 13, 2004 (8:29 am)
Congrats, Chris.   The X has styled steel wheels that IMHO look just fine, I wouldn't bother changing them unless you really wanted a 2nd set of rims, maybe for winter tires, or you wanted to go Plus One.   You got a full size spare, the Mazda would've had a donut.   You also have space for toes under the front seats, not so in the Mazda6.   You will love the break-away mirrors, which the Mazda6 lacks. First hit and they'd break, all right.   Even with the V6, Mazda's peak torque only comes at a sky high 5000 rpm. Some drivers never even get there. Subies peak a lot sooner, 4000rpm.   And despite the X being the "base" model, you're still getting AWD, ABS, side air bags that protect your head, 20 stars in NCAP testing, IIHS Best Pick and Good ratings front and side, best bumpers in the class (IIHS again), two trip odometers, outside temp gauge, 2 sun glasses holders, etc.   I think you'll find more and more little surprises and have a growing fondness for your Subie.   Congrats again.   -juice
#407 of 2765 by ateixeira Sep 13, 2004 (8:32 am)
Mazda6 got a poor in the IIHS offset test (vs. Good for Forester), and 17/20 NCAP stars (vs. 20 for Subaru). The bumpers are average (vs. best in class).   Don't worry, be happy. :o)   -juice
#408 of 2765 '04 Forester XT/w Premium Package by radioone Sep 16, 2004 (9:49 am)
MSRP $28,782, Invoice $26,105, TMV $25,591.   I took the $26,105, and knocked off the $1,500 for Cash Back to Dealer thru Sept 30. $24,605.   I've been on the lot of our local dealer when they were not open, and the above numbers are for the ones on their lot plus or minus $100 for different options. I thought maybe an "offer" of $24,800 might be reasonable.   I get an email this morning. They want $24,795.   I almost get the feeling I'm missing something in the equation.   Thanks for any thoughts.
#409 of 2765 by ateixeira Sep 16, 2004 (11:48 am)
The dealer gets a small holdback (2% or so) so he can pay the electrical bill.   They gotta eat, man!   Run, don't walk, and buy one.   -juice
#410 of 2765 new 05 subie forester X auto by mazdax605 Sep 16, 2004 (3:41 pm)
Thanks to all who replied to my questions.We did indeed go for the 36 month lease i spoke of before on a brand new 05 forester X in Cayenne Red pearl.It is the automatic(not my choice),and has the armrest extender,and rear rubber mat thingy.We got what I and the Car_Man on the lease forum thinks is a good deal at $340 a month with all MA taxes included and gap insurance.My wife loves the car so far(we got the car last night),but I think that subaru cheaped out on the fabric on the seats(they are rough),and for some reason the roof racks whistle(at least thats where I think the noise is coming from).Any suggestions?Plus the glove box lock is really a pain in the rump.You need to talk dirty to it to get the thing to lock.I even showed this to the sales person,and the service guy,and they figured out how to do it but we cannot.I hope this car is as reliable as our Mazda Protege that we traded in.What do you guys think?Will it be reliable?   Oh yeah the dealer has a program where if you get the car serviced with them at their set intervals(3750 miles between oil changes-severe duty schedule)then you will qualify for their tires for life program,loaner car,and something else.Is it worth paying for these services to get these so called "freebies" when the manual says 3000 for the 1st then 7500 there after?Thanks again   Chris&Becky Replies to this message: p0926 (Sep 18, 2004 10:42 am)
#411 of 2765 Re: new 05 subie forester X auto [mazdax605] by p0926 Sep 18, 2004 (10:42 am)
Replying to: mazdax605 (Sep 16, 2004 3:41 pm) Well congratulations on your new Forester! I can't say I've ever locked my glove box but I can't imagine why it would be difficult to do unless something is binding. All things being equal, a Subaru should actually be slightly more reliable than a Mazda. Of course there are always exceptions. What's the advantage of a "tires for life" program with a leased vehicle that you'll quiet possibly return before ever needing tires?   -Frank
#412 of 2765 by ateixeira Sep 21, 2004 (8:05 am)
Congrats!   -juice
#413 of 2765 Fitzmall price by gotb Sep 21, 2004 (8:11 am)
I agree Fitzmall has good prices but you can find cheaper price. For instance, Herb Gordon Nissan in Silver Spring, MD sells $500-$1000 cheaper than Fitzmall internet price. Check out their internet department. Herb Gordon Nissan's internet price includes freight and you only need to add tax, tag and $99 doc fee like Fitzmall does(doc fee used to be $25 when I bought my car). I bought my Sentra from Herb Gordon Nissan about $1000 cheaper than Fitzmall in June, 2003.   However, I'm looking for a 2004 or 2005 Subaru Forester X and I can't find any dealer that has a better quote than Fitzmall.
#414 of 2765 by ateixeira Sep 21, 2004 (8:12 am)
Definitely shop around. The idea of the no-haggle strategy is not the lowest possible price, it's just a consitently fair price without the hassle.   It won't always be the lowest, but some times it will.   -juice

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