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Is this a good deal for an '04 FXT Premium w/ leather? $25,851 (invoice) + tax, title, etc. then minus $1250 rebate? Does the rebate get applied after tax is added to the figure? The car has approx. 50 dealer/lot miles on the odometer... Thanks!
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Replying to: dtos01 (Aug 16, 2004 3:55 pm) elissa
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Replying to: edunnett (Aug 16, 2004 11:23 pm) The price David (dtos01) quoted is $24,601 ($25,851 - $1250) after the rebate. DaveM
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Replying to: dcm61 (Aug 17, 2004 4:43 am) |
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Tax depends on the state. In MD, you pay sales tax before the customer rebate. But if it's a dealer incentive and they pass it on to you, you are taxed only on the lower price. It can vary by state, though, many states do not tax you on the rebate amount. -juice |
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The MSRP is $22,996- The dealer will knock off $3,350 ( includes $1,250 rebate ). Dealer called back today & was willing to drop another $500 because they low balled my trade last night. I am going to try & sell the car myself & then come back to the dealer for the lowest price. Also wondering about rust-proofing....I live in NYS and they use a lot of salt on the roads. I have not owned a Subaru before & don't know how much rust-proofing is done when they are built. Thanks in advance for your help- |
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I bought a new 2004 Forester XT about 10 days ago. Made good deal on the car (thanks to shopping online first). My one regret is that I agreed to a window tint job, and its price was added into the sale and the loan. Now, having belatedly learned a lot about window tints, I have changed my mind. I know what kind of tint I really do want, but it is not what the dealer offers. The tint installation is not scheduled yet. This weekend I emailed my sales rep and asked if it was possible to arrange for the brand of tint I want, which is Huper Optik ceramic. I think this looks like a superior product to the Solar Gard film the dealer uses. I know it is more expensive. The response, which did not surprise me, was no. Their tint supplier doesn't carry it. "Never heard of it" was the actual response, which is not credible to me. I feel personal responsibility for agreeing to an unspecified tint job without researching it first, and I understand that this is a high-markup item for the dealer. Given all that, I didn't just say, "I've changed my mind. Please give me my money back." Instead, I suggested that they just cancel out the tint job and apply those dollars to a retail credit in their own parts/service dept. (I'm sure there are healthy margins there, too.) That way, since they can't provide the tint product I really want, I would just shop it independently. But they would keep the same amount of business on other accessory goodies. Seemed like a win-win deal to me. The sales rep first said that seemed reasonable, but then came back after checking with the bad cops (sales manager and business manager) and said no-can-do. They said the tinting supplier has already been paid for the job. <Rolling my eyes> I ended up sending an email to all three, saying thanks but no, I choose not to take delivery on the tint job. No matter what, it is now a net negative to me (even if it were free) because it would preclude installation of the higher-quality product I really want. I left it up to the dealer to rectify their own <ahem> accounting with the tint provider, and to give me whatever refund or consideration I may be due. If they think that is zero, then I asked them to just say so. I think this can be analyzed on several different levels: * What is legal? * What is ethical? * What sort of aftertaste will I have when I fill out Subaru of America's customer satisfaction survey? What do others think? |
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Forester are already undercoated at the factory, to make the trip across the Pacific Ocean. No need for any more than that. Warning: I'm going to play Devil's Advocate as far as the tint goes. I am not sugar coating this at all. Technically, you ordered the tint and they might have scheduled it and pre-paid, or at least left a deposit. They have a good will relationship with their tint installer and probably just don't want to cancel it. Here's another thing - they may have made your deal with the profit margins for the tint job in mind, i.e. that might be a good portion of the only profit they made on your sale. From that perspective, a deal is a deal. You agreed to it and the only one breaking their promise, legally and ethically, is ... you. But let's step back a bit. What can/should you do? I have SolarGard film on my Forester, have for 6 years now. It's been great. No fading, no turning purple, no bubbling. It's been great, actually. I've never heard of "Huper Optik ceramic" tint, it sounds a bit like snake oil to me, so I don't think they were lying when they told you they never heard of it. If SolarGard has worked well for them all this time why wouldn't they stick with it? I saw the same thing about 5 years ago, people that paid more for metallic-based films kept saying my SolarGard dyed film would fade and turn purple. When? 20 years from now? I wish I'd made a bet. They'd owe me a cold beer right about now! Go with the SolarGard, why not? My wife had it on her 626 for several years and she had no problems, either. Ask for warranty information in writing, and make sure the tint installation is perfect. SolarGard is fine, looks great on my Forester. Here are some pics: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291908527&p=4243265717- &idx=17 This one shows it next to a non-tinted Legacy: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291908527&p=4257080942- &idx=11 -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 18, 2004 8:26 am) I would get the dealer tint, most likely it's a reputable installer that they use. I had my tint done aftermarket on my own but used my dealer-suggested shop. The shop the dealer used also happened to be the shop my friends with tint jobs recommended and the shop recommended on all the local discussion boards. But I would find out about warranties, most of the product suppliers offer a lifetime warranty. To me, and honorable warranty on a mediocre product is better than none on a great product. At worst, it's equivalent. Elissa |
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