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#3344 of 3509 Re: 2012 2.5X Premium w/ winter package [georged4]
by hiker89
Jan 14, 2012 (9:01 am)
Any suggestion on how to sell 2012 Subaru Forester with under 1,000 miles? I'm not happy with it. I found a cargo space much smaller than what we had in our sedan and that's very important since we take many long trip and carry with us lots of stuff. I'm also puzzled with a placement of gas tank leveler on the floor and right next to my left foo. It came apart after my second hike and before I even open it for the first time to pump a gas. I also found that a gas mileage is surprising low.
#3345 of 3509 Re: 2012 2.5X Premium w/ winter package [hiker89]
by dalon
Jan 15, 2012 (9:26 am)
It's lower b/c you are probably in colder weather just like all of us.
1. Newer cars get lower fuel mileage initially b/c the car has to be worn in a little for the optimal mileage to take place.
2. Colder weather=worse fuel mileage
I've been getting 19 mpg in the cold weather in the 2012 Forester. Also, I think it has a smaller fuel tank than the 16.9 gallons that the manual tells you, so you're not wasting as much gas, I paid around $44-$45 at 3.62 and my tank was over 3/4 empty.
3. Yea, the placement of the gas tank opener is odd to me too but maybe you pulled it up a little too hard? Just a guess? But yea, that's not good. So, how are you opening the fuel tank now?
Not everything is going to be perfect with the car unfortunately, and that goes for any car.
#3346 of 3509 Re: 2012 2.5X Premium w/ winter package [hiker89]
by xwesx
Jan 16, 2012 (4:47 pm)
If you want to sell it, first make sure that any warranty issues are repaired, then, since you don't have any price guides at this point, look at the closest comparable 2011 on the guides and start your asking price at a little higher than that. My guess is that your top starting point will be 10% under the MSRP of the vehicle.
You'll have to balance how much your willing to lose on the actual price of the sale with the added cost of keeping each month you do so. In other words, if you financed it and have full coverage insurance, how much are those costing you each month? If you ask $24,000 and somebody comes along and offers $23,800 (or even $23,500) after several weeks with no hits, how much is that extra few hundred worth to you versus the chance you won't get another hit for a month or two?
That, and you know the first question all perspective buyers will ask is, "so, why are you selling it?" Keep it simple; coming out with "I don't like it" isn't going to put you into a good selling position!
#3347 of 3509 Re: 2012 2.5X Premium w/ winter package [hiker89]
by ateixeira
Jan 17, 2012 (1:46 pm)
I'd keep it.
You mileage will improve as it warms up, and then again as it breaks in. I just took a road trip to PA and recorded about 4mpg less than a similar trip in warm weather last year.
Another thing - gas costs are a small % of overall ownership costs. The big one? Depreciation. And what holds its value well? The Forester.
A Fusion Hybrid (I picked an efficient sedan) would save you roughly $900 per year, but you'll probably lose $2000 in trading in a brand new car, so that eats up 2 years' worth of gas savings.
Just keep it, see if mpg improves. By a shelf'/organizer for the tall cargo area. Foresters really hold their value well, it wins all sorts of residual awards.
Gas is cheap.
Trading in a brand new car for another brand new car? Very expensive.
#3348 of 3509 New 2012 Forester 2.5X Premium
by sirbigsley
Feb 07, 2012 (8:30 am)
Bought new at Bay Ridge Subaru in Brooklyn, New York.
Marine Blue Pear 2012 Forester 2.5X Premium, Automatic Transmission, PZEV w/ AWP, auto-dimming mirror w/ compass, bumper cover and luggage compartment cover.
$24,698 before taxes and tags ($2,166) = out the door at $26,864
I was a bit disappointed at this price. Truecar.com did not seem to have any prices listed in my area, and after shopping around through email and calls, this was the best I could do.
#3349 of 3509 Re: New 2012 Forester 2.5X Premium [sirbigsley]
by specdan
Feb 07, 2012 (9:05 am)
This exercise is very easy. You need to get your hands on the Invoice for the Car.
Work backwards, you want to buy the car at $1000-$1500 BELOW Invoice.
At this level your getting a good deal.
Work with the Fleet or Internet Sales Manager in several dealerships (3-5), over the phone or better yet with E-Mail. I would not step into a dealership until you've made the deal.
#3350 of 3509 Re: 2012 2.5X Premium w/ winter package [dfo]
by eviljay182
Feb 10, 2012 (1:18 pm)
Ugh I'm sick to my stomach.... I just agreed to a price of $25,100 for a 2012 Subaru Forester X Premium
- Automatic, All Weather Package, Cargo Tray, Bumper Cover, Cargo Net
I'm paying too much arn't I? I didn;t take delivery of the car yet, is there anything I can do?
Feb 15, 2012 (10:51 pm)
These are 2012 vehicles. This is not year-end clearance prices for 2011's. You are about $350 over Invoice. Ask them to add an installed accessory. Like the Auto-Dimming mirror w/compass. Or Tweeters. Or splashguards & rubber floor mats. Some of the prices on here are incredible. Subaru is selling cars at no profit in February?? Some of the prices on here are accurate, as a few (very few) parts of the country always sell cars cheap. But, maybe $10 an hour is ok in that neck of the woods, too? (I'm asking for it..) Yours is a bit high. Not a lot, but about $250 too high. If it's too late now, try to get an installed accessory, if too too late, just enjoy it. Take it easy for a few hundred miles, especially when the engine is cold. A 2wd Rav with V6 and leather still seems kinda attractive to me, but I think my 2012 X Premium Auto w/All Weather Pkg, Cargo tray, Bumper cover, Luggage cover, Auto-dimming mirror w/homelink was a good choice. Just hit 3,000 miles yesterday, and no problems. Have added some Subaru accessories, too. It was pretty good in the snow and ice in Seattle last Month!!
#3352 of 3509 Re: Did I Pay a Decent Price for the 2012 Forester 2.5X(base) [specdan]
by woodynj
Feb 27, 2012 (9:06 am)
I've just started shopping and the best I've been able to do so far is $200 above invoice using the consumer reports quote service.
How the heck did you get $1,300 below invoice? Was it an end of year closeout, did you have a trade?
#3353 of 3509 Re: Did I Pay a Decent Price for the 2012 Forester 2.5X(base) [woodynj]
by ursus
Feb 27, 2012 (11:18 am)
I bet he meant $1,300 of MSRP
It looks like you are in NJ, so check out Stohlman Subaru in Tysons (VA) - email or talk to sales manager directly. They are the highest volume dealer on East Coast from MD to FL. If you get the price you want, you can order yours with the options you need. I did just that and got mine at $600 below invoice. Worth the drive.