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Re: Forrester Purchase [4runshoper] by xwesx
Oct 21, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: 4runshoper (Oct 21, 2009 8:13 am)

Truck. Haha. I do have two trucks (a '76 Ford F250 and a '69 Chevy C20) but the Forester is not one of them!
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Re: Great feedback xwesx [bpraxis] by k2chad
Oct 21, 2009 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Oct 20, 2009 3:54 pm)

Don't bet on the CVT, possibly in the base model, but even the 6 cyl outback gets a traditional auto. CVT eliminates towing as well... not like you are going to tow a lot anyways, but I tow a 17 foot boat easily now.
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Thank you again xwesx by bpraxis
Oct 21, 2009 (3:49 pm)
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A wonderful Wednesday and I hope that you all are having a great day.
 
  Thank you once again for the fantastic feedback on your experience with your four Subies.
 
  My girlfriend has a 2009 Honda CRV and it is at least a generation ahead in my opinion in build quality and fitment over the RAV 4 and Subaru Forrester. It seems like it is assembled by alien technology. That is probably why it is the best selling small suv.
 
  My attraction to the Subaru is the superior four wheel drive system and the CRV is a more feminine car. I do not want the ride and gas milage penalty of a more truck like vehicle like the Xterra or Wrangler although I love the styling.
 
  So regarding your feedback with the manual transmisson how do you feel about resale value vs. the automatic transmission?
 
  The vast majority of the Forrester vehicles sold are with the old four speed auto.
 
  With appreciation and kind regards,
 
  Brandon
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Bill Kolb, Jr Subaru by 4runshoper
Oct 21, 2009 (5:13 pm)
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Hi People,
 
We are going to try to get a...2010 Forester X, Premium, Automatic, All Weather for dealer invoice at Bill Kolb, Jr Subaru in NY...any thought on this effort?
 
 
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Re: Thank you again xwesx [bpraxis] by xwesx
Oct 22, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Oct 21, 2009 3:49 pm)

In my experience, a manual transmission does not adversely affect resale value because while demand is lower, so is supply (generally). However, it does affect the number of potential buyers of the vehicle, so the time it takes to sell the car can go up. For that '08 Outback, I wanted to turn it around as soon as possible (because I lost $250 every month I owned it between loan interest and insurance payments) so I went with an automatic transmission.
 
It still took me nearly three months to sell it, but that was because I managed to buy it just as the economy started to tank. I still made out quite a bit better than my alternative for the trip (combination of airline tickets and rental cars); I sold it for a couple hundred less than I paid for it.
 
In general, I doubt folks who buy new cars look to sell them immediately. From what I see, old used manuals tend to be snapped up quickly because (I suspect) they are 1., even more rare than in the new car market, and 2., cheaper (just like new manuals), easier to maintain, etc.
 
Really, in the end, it is just a matter of what you prefer vs. what is available.
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Re: Thank you again xwesx [bpraxis] by ateixeira
Oct 22, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Oct 21, 2009 3:49 pm)

I have a Miata as well, 2008 PRHT Touring with a 6 speed manual.
 
My wife drives a 2009 Forester Limited, those only came with the 4 speed auto. It's surprisingly responsive, though. The compression ratio is higher than the turbo, so it actually responds to throttle inputs pretty much immediately. The Miata is quicker but the Forester never feels slow, in fact I think the initial response to throttle inputs comes sooner.
 
On caveat - we got the PZEV model, which is rated for 175hp, 5 more than stock.
 
If it were mine I might have insisted on the manual, but she really wanted to get it loaded, and the Limited only came in auto, so that was that.
 
The manual is both quicker and more efficient. CR got +3mpg with theirs, manual vs. auto. In the fuel economy threads I've seen people reporting up to 3mpg better than I can manage, though at 22-30mpg I'm not complaining.
 
The turbo gives up about 2mpg in real world driving plus you gotta use premium, so 10% more gas that costs maybe 10% or so more, figure 20% extra fuel cost.
 
I think if I lived in the mountains (say, Colorado) or if I were going to tow heavy loads with it I may have pushed for the turbo, but that would only make me want a manual even more, and you can't get one any more.
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Thank you to ateixeira and xwesx by bpraxis
Oct 22, 2009 (12:45 pm)
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Thank you once again for your very thoughtful feedback and your information will be used in my purchase decision.
 
  I am leaning toward a factory order on the Turbo in Spark Silver with minimal options targeting a buy price of $26,000.00.
 
  To ateixeira. We were shopping for a Miata at the same time and I also purchased a PRHT in copper red. There is another couple who live near me who also have a Forrester and Miata.
 
  Have you been satisfied with the panel alignments on your Miata? My doors need to be adjusted..
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Re: Thank you to ateixeira and xwesx [bpraxis] by ateixeira
Oct 23, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Oct 22, 2009 12:45 pm)

My Miata has been flawless, fortunately.
 
My only complaint is that the Blue Mica paint is very, very dark, and with a clearcoat it shows swirl marks and scratches all too easily. You basically cannot touch the paint at all for fear of scratches.
 
Other than that, no issues. I wish the bottle holder in the door didn't stick out, but I moved the dead pedal back 3/8" and that helped a lot. I may do the gas pedal mod next, not sure.
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Re: Thank you to ateixeira and xwesx [ateixeira] by bpraxis
Oct 23, 2009 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 23, 2009 7:57 am)

Happy to know ateixeira that the body panels are straight on your ride. Even though the copper red is dark for some reason it does not show scratches. It is one of the finest colors out there and I have recieved many compliments.
 
  Your blue is a very attractive color and you made a good choice sans the maintainence part.
 
  I am going to meet with a factory rep regarding fitment and may attempt to have them buy it back.
 
  One panet has a gap of approxmately 7 mm, both doors do not fit properly, and the truck is misaligned.
 
  Sorry to go off topic regarding the Forrester.
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Re: Thank you to ateixeira and xwesx [bpraxis] by ateixeira
Oct 23, 2009 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Oct 23, 2009 11:07 am)

Well, good luck Forester shopping, and I hope Mazda does something because a 7mm gap does not sound right to me at all.

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