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Replying to: 4runshoper (Oct 19, 2009 5:42 pm) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 6:53 am) At this point, you're $600 over invoice, which is about half-way between invoice and MSRP. Again, depending on your market, you can do better. I would shoot for $23,500 and be willing to pay up to $23,800. Also, if you are ordering the car and since you are already getting a couple of the items included, I highly recommend the rugged package. It includes the aero cross bars and rear bumper cover, along with body side molding (protects the doors from others' doors), wheel arch molding, and splash guards. In addition to trimming the car nicely, it also protects the paint along the lower side of the rig. It is a $600 package (at invoice).
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 6:53 am) |
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 20, 2009 8:57 am)
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Hello everyone and I hope that you are having a great day. How much of a discount should I expect ordering a 2010 Forester Premium that would have an MSRP of approximately $25,000.00? Since there is no significant floorplan on a factory order should the discount be larger? The pearl white looks fantastic but I want black interior for low maintainance. So I will probably go with silver. Love the pearl red but have it already in a Miata. Dont understand the addition of Paprika when it is so close to Camilla Red Pearl. Does anyone have any strong feelings regarding purchasing the Turbo vs. the standard 170 horsepower engine? If they had the WRX engine I would have no hesitation with 264 horsepower. With appreciation of your feedback and kind regards, Brandon
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Replying to: bpraxis (Oct 20, 2009 2:07 pm) Versus a car on the lot, I would think so, but that is often not the case. It really depends on the dealer with whom you are working. I would shoot for around invoice, if not a little under. If MSRP is $25,000, invoice will be appx. 94% of that, or $23,500. In person, Paprika is far different from Camellia Red. Camellia red is a deep red, regardless of light, whereas Paprika looks quite orange in bright sunlight, though it has a deeper, warmer hue in more subdued light. My car is Paprika and I have several photos of it on my Carspace page in different lighting conditions if you want to compare. Actually, for 4runshoper's benefit, the rugged package can be seen on the car, too. I feel the same as you with regard to the turbo. I have a standard 2.5 in mine, and it is plenty peppy, but I would have been sorely tempted to get a turbo if it were offered as a 265hp variant; or even a manual transmission, for that matter, with the toned-down 224. As it is, it is fun and I am not likely to get into too much trouble with it. 
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Replying to: 4runshoper (Oct 20, 2009 1:24 pm) |
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Thank you very much xwesx for the great feedback and insight into your great looking ride. The Papriki looks terrific in your photos as well as your option packages. I will target 94 percent of MSRP on the dealer order. I would bet that the 2011 will have a CVT automatic with better gas milage and the higher horsepower Turbo. The CVT is rated for 29 MPG on the highway for the 2010 Outback. Due to the success of the 2009 model, Subaru probably did not have much incentive to make significant changes. So do you have an opinion regarding purchasing the automatic vs. the manual transmission?
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 20, 2009 2:37 pm) 
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Replying to: bpraxis (Oct 20, 2009 3:54 pm) The first Subaru was a '96 Outback with a 4EAT. The car had 220,000 miles at the end, and the transmission was strong and reliable. I never did any work on it other than a couple of fluid drains and filter replacements. The second was an '07 Outback with 5MT. I only put about 9,000 miles on that car, but had no problems with the manual. The factory fluid was not sufficient for Alaska winters (they put a conventional 75w-90 in it) and would get extremely gummy at temperatures in the -30 or colder range. I replaced it with a synthetic 75w-90 that has a -65F pour point, and that improved both fuel economy and the shiftability of the transmission. Nothing noticeable during warm weather, but then half of the year here could not be considered warm.  The third was an '08 Outback with 4EAT. I purchased this car for a short-term trip and sold it four months after purchase (I bought the auto for ease of resale), but put about 7,000 miles on it. Again, the transmission was absolutely reliable. I noticed right off that at highway speed, the engine RPM is a little lower than that of the MT cars. I would say that at 70, the MT runs at about 3100 RPM, whereas the AT runs at about 2800 RPM. I also felt it was quite spunky. I very much liked the sport mode and the simulated manual mode (with gear indicator on the dash) as compared to the '96, which did not have those features. Some say the AT feels sluggish compared to the MT, but I guess I tend to run my MTs more with fuel economy in mind... at least most of the time. The last is my current car, the '10 Forester, with the MT. I notice this time that the clutch pedal feels very muted, much like the steering, and I have a bit of a hard time feeling the trigger (engagement) point on the clutch plate. For the first couple days I owned it (during which I put over 2,000 miles on it), that made for a few awkward starts, but I have it figured out now. I am used to older/larger vehicles that have direct-linked clutch pedals and gobs of torque. This car also has a hill-holder feature, which basically acts like the brake remains engaged for a couple seconds after you take your foot off it to give time to transition to forward momentum. I hate this feature; my wife likes it. Again, I am used to it now, but for the first couple of days it messed with my mind because rather than do what I expected it to do, it sat motionless and I hesitated, trying to figure out what was wrong.... A nanny for everything these days.  For leisurely accelerations, I've found the shift points to be 2nd, 5-10 mph, 3rd, 18 mph, 4th, 25 mph, 5th, 35mph. For not so leisurely accelerations, I've held 3rd past 60 and was around 4000 rpm, if I recall correctly. As far as fuel economy goes, with me driving the MT returns better fuel economy than the AT; it is the opposite for my wife.
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