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#2427 of 2755
2.9% financing through Subaru by sgloon
Mar 04, 2009 (10:13 pm)
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For those of you looking at buying a new Forester, I happened to notice that for the month of March 2009, they are offering 2.9% financing with no money down on a new Forester.
 
Great rate IMHO! Good time to buy!
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Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! by occking
Mar 05, 2009 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Mar 04, 2009 10:13 pm)

Ok, I have decided to purchase Forester 2.5x limited. Every feature except turbo, including nav, bluetooth and kit so that XM radio will work (have been told that cost approx $400, even though the radio is "pre wired"
 
Have a firm offer from Mastria, Raynham for $25.995 including all of the above. I haven't been able to determine the invoice but sure seems like that price is somewhat below invoice.
 
I have a trade that will bring me $17,500 so only $8500 out of pocket so not really concerned about financing (although I know I would qualify for the 2.9 as would probably pay off the loan in one year.
 
Trading in 2008 Altima Hybrid, just want something with a little more room that will still get decent mpg. I drove the turbo would love it, but concerned about mpg & I guess premium fuel required. Have read dozens of messages on the boards and hear of mpg across the board. I do find it difficult to believe the turbo, no matter how conservatively driven will get much higher mpg than the 19 - 24 advertised. For the non-turbo, I would also expect to get the mileage indicated (close to 26 mpg mostly highway driving) but I see a lot of messages from people claiming higher mileage.
 
Am concerned taking a step down with non-turbo from my Altima Hybrid which is quite peppy (0 - 60 in around 8) plus has a 20 gallon tank which will take me well over 600 miles easily & average upwards of 35 mpg. I had 05 Outback a few years ago & it seems to non-turbo Forester has about the same get up and go. Could get the turbo for approx $1500 more, or around $27,500
 
Any comments from owners out there telling me the truth with real world gas mileage would be greatly appreciated. Not what the computer says, cause they always indicate higher than actual mpg.
 
I will be going to dealer on Saturday morning to consumate the deal so any and all comments regarding pricing, mileage, and any other experiences would be greatly appreciated. Also, I read over 100 messages on Edmunds.com consumer reviews and quite a few commented on noises and rattles on the vehicle. Anyone out there with similar experiences?
 
Lastly any comments on extended warranties. I have had them on last three cars, including 05 Outback and 06 Tribeca, but never kept the vehicles long enough to use them (turned them in & got partial credit back) I assume a 5 year, 100,000 mile classic warranty will run around $1500?
 
I got too Saturday morning to everyone with comments please respond!!!
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Re: Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! [occking] by ateixeira
Mar 06, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: occking (Mar 05, 2009 8:13 pm)

Our 09 Limited with everything except NAV is currently getting about 24 mpg in mixed driving in the suburbs. It does much better on trips (27-30) but we tend to use our Minivan for very long trips.
 
I had a 98 model before, and I really like the fact that Subaru went to a 16.9 gallon fuel tank for the 09 models. I know it doesn't sound like much, but the old one was 15.9 and the extra gallon means an extra day or two between every fill-up.
 
You'll get 350-400 miles out of a tank if it's not all city driving, which is a whole lot better than my Miata, for instance (just 250 miles and I'm gas shopping).
 
That's not hybrid-levels of range, but then again none of the cute utes have 20 gallon gas tanks, either. Even the hybrid Escape has a smaller tank than the Forester, and highway mileage isn't any better so you're not really getting any more range.
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Re: Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! [occking] by ateixeira
Mar 06, 2009 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: occking (Mar 05, 2009 8:13 pm)

I care a lot about range, even more than MPG, so here are the fuel tank sizes for the class:
 
Tucson 17.2 (too bad it's not fuel efficient)
Forester 16.9
Vue 16.9
Escape 16.5
RAV4 15.9
Rogue 15.9
Outlander 15.8
CR-V 15.3
Sportage 15.3
Compass 13.6 (waaaaaaaaay too small)
Patriot 13.5 (are they kidding?)
 
So yeah, to beat the Forester's range in the small SUV class, you pretty much have to buy a hybrid.
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Re: Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! [ateixeira] by occking
Mar 06, 2009 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 06, 2009 12:56 pm)

Thanks for the comments. Fairly certain I will make the deal tomorrow morning. Just a little concerned the "power" will be similar to what I had in my 05 Outback, and I have been a little spoiled by my Nissan Altima Hybrid (0 - 60 in around 8) Not that I step on the gas that often but the power is there is I need it. Also will miss 20 gal tank that would bring me minimum 600 miles, sometimes almost 700.
 
Have you experienced the "rattles and noises" I have read about in many of the other message boards? How the interior scratches & scuffs very easily? How about front passenger seat that I have read many complain abnormally low? (Although I am in the car alone much of the time, will my wife (5' 1") sit too low in it?
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Re: Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! [occking] by sgloon
Mar 06, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: occking (Mar 05, 2009 8:13 pm)

I got great gas mileage on a trip this October. Averaged over 32mpg part of the way. In Arizona, hiway or empty road driving. I got a bit over 450 miles per tank on that trip, and never actually ran out of gas.
 
I have found that the octane available will make a difference. Normally in my area regular is 85. It was 87 in Arizona and I notice the inproved gas mileage.
 
Around town/hiway mixed for me is about 28mpg.
 
In winter, we have ethanol mixed into our gas, so the mileage does down. I'm averaging somewhere between 24 and 27mpg with the ethanol mix gas which is mandatory in my area.
 
I have had none of the rattles/etc mentioned except for when I put sunglasses in the sunglass holder...though I still have sunglasses in the holder, it doesn't make that noise now.
 
The only other issue was dirt/dust attaching to the wheels and making the car shake. It is normally very dry where I live. It was enough to unbalance the wheels. But, it certainly doesn't happen every time I drive on a dirt road. It has happened about 4 times, not sure of a why, or whether it will occur again. The wheels had to be cleaned, especially on the inside, to get the buildup off.
 
Definitely scratches interior excessively easily. Perhaps get a dark interior if this would bother you, as you wouldn't notice is as much, I'm thinking. Definitely something to be aware of before you buy...but I still like the car, just wish they hadn't picked this type of material.
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Re: Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! [sgloon] by occking
Mar 07, 2009 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: sgloon (Mar 06, 2009 6:40 pm)

Well, Thanks! Your information was helpful. I am just surprised many claim to be getting mpg somewhat higher than the 20 - 26 indicated on the sticker. I am a fairly conservative driver (maybe maximum 70 on the highway) but otherwise do not have a lead foot. Also concerned about comments passenger seat very low so I suppose before I make deal this morning will bring wife to see if she is comfortable in the seat (although most of driving mine)
 
In addition to good value for trade, the price of 26000 seems very good for a loaded vehicle with a list of just about 29500, plus they will add bluetooth (around $200 cost) plus make "pre wired" radio ready to accept XM (I was quoted $400 to $500 elsewhere for that) all for $26,000 seems well below invoice.
 
I did have issues with 05 Outback in winter if snow or ice would either build up in wheels, wheel wells or treads that I would get a lot of vibration at highway speeds. Seems like that problem has not been resolved.
 
How many miles on your vehicle? Are your mpg calculations based on actual, or via computer?
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I welcome myself to this board!! by occking
Mar 07, 2009 (10:15 am)
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I have been on previously, having owned 05 Outback then 06 Tribeca. Left Subaru for one year tried, and had my fun with Nissan Altima Hybrid, now back with Subaru.
 
Got what I thought was excellent deal... 2.5x ltd Forester, Sage Green, pretty well loaded with Nav, Bluetooth, set up for XM (vehicle is prewired but supposedly still cost $400 additional to have it installed) the rubber cargo cover, "winter package" etc. total list approx $29,000 for $26,000, plus $300 doc fee, registration & taxes. I am sure this price far below list for this vehicle with the options.
 
I will be a frequent poster to this board and one thing you can be sure of -- I do a lot of driving and keep very accurate records of mpg. Not what the computer says, which is always inflated, but actual consumption based on miles drive divided by gas consumed.
 
Too many people on these boards claim high (or low) mpg based on what the computer says driving on the highway for 50 miles, or after driving just a few hundred miles.
 
I am optomistic that I will get at least a little over the 20 - 26 (some stickers say 20 - 27, I don't know why there is a difference) and I will post this information. I decided on the Sage Green as I have had plenty of silver and white cars, my wife has black in the driveway (too high maintenance) also had the gold, & some of the other colors required the black interior and I wanted the grey.
 
Too bad winter almost over here (near Providence, RI) I may not get to see how this vehicle does in the snow (60 degrees now!)
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Re: Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! [occking] by sgloon
Mar 07, 2009 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: occking (Mar 07, 2009 5:17 am)

You are correct about the snow/ice buildup in the wheel wells. I haven't gotten vibration from it to date, though.
 
BTW, I have an MT as far as gas goes, they typically get 2mpg better than AT. I did both hand calcs and read the dash mpg. It has never been too far off that I noticed. I have about 8300 miles. And I had thought the mileage was going down as it was getting older until I realized about the gas difference. It has also started to pick up with some warmer weather (70) that we have been having here in the middle of winter., And I do drive more hiway than city, by a fair bit. Overall mpg before ethanol was 29.5mpg.
 
Oh, and I am a fairly conservative driver as well. Although, I was going 75 on the hiway in AZ cuz it was just so far to drive. Normally I'm between 65 & 70 on the hiway around home.
 
I haven't had a problem with the low seat. I'm always the driver. I have had a couple of very small women in the front seat beside me...but I may not notice the difference as much as I'm 5'6" and a woman as well, but with a longer torso. I only really noticed once cuz it was noted here and once I had a very sort torsoed person in the passenger seat. That was what made me note what the others were talking about.
 
Good luck with your purchase. Be aware that Subaru currently has a 2.9% no money down, up to 63 month financing program. At least for the month of March. Good deal.
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Re: Some response, quickly pleaswe!!! [sgloon] by occking
Mar 07, 2009 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: sgloon (Mar 07, 2009 11:59 am)

I got 17,500 for trade of my Nissan Altima Hybrid with 34k miles. I feel pretty good about that, KBB for trade was $16,500 so I got somewhat over that. NAH originally cost $30,200 less factory rebate of $1250 for a net cost of 29,000. Will be getting $2350 tax credit for buying the hybrid, thus my approx cost for vehicle was $27,000.
So, getting back $17,500 means my cost to use the vehicle for one year was around $9500 for the 34k miles I put on it. Major maintenance ($200 and $400) was paid for by Subaru Bucks (same dealer has Subaru Dealership and they allowed me to use them.
 
Plus, I am using another $1200 in Subaru Bucks on the new purchase & I will continue to earn enough this year to be able to pay for major maintenance on the vehicle.
 
I had purchased a 100k 5 year extended warranty for Nissan for $1400 and I expect I will get back around $900. Not sure if I will get another one for this vehicle. Did you get one??
 
Overall was very pleased to get the vehicle I wanted for $26,000 with the list approaching $30,000. My purchase price has to be at least $1000 less than invoice.

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