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Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: New Car Being Registered as Used Car [connieylee] by ateixeira
Feb 11, 2009 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: connieylee (Feb 11, 2009 10:11 am)

Strange indeed. 9 miles is definitely still new to me.
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Re: New Car Being Registered as Used Car [ateixeira] by TahoePD
Feb 11, 2009 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 11, 2009 10:18 am)

I have been cruising this forum on and off looking for info the 09 Foster for my mother inlaw.
She thinks she knows what she wants possibly a demo 2.5xt limited w/ +/- 3500 miles (non nav) or a base line model. Here is my question how much would the sale price of the demo run and how much off the sticker price be of the base line model. Im not real familar with the invoice pricing on this niche type vehicle. Any help would be greatly apprepricated.
BTW we are located in Ocean County NJ
 
Thanks in advance.
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2009 Forester 2.5X Limited, Spark Silver by jad376
Feb 11, 2009 (11:28 pm)
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OK...just closed the deal. I've got a 2.5X Limited (for the gas mileage) in the spark silver, with the black, er, "dark grey" interior. They're bringing it in from another dealership and waiving the usual $100 fee...
 
MSRP: $26,890 (pzev!)
Dealer's Quoted Invoice: $25,261 (base dealer invoice: $24,566 according to cars101.com)
 
Internet price: $24,221 ($1,040 under invoice...previous offer was $300 under invoice...so this would technically be $345 under "base" dealer cost?)
 
Homelink mirror, wheel arch mouldings, rear bumper guard, cargo cover (I didn't want the puddle lights because they could break if I bottom out): $1,058 including labor to install at dealership...
 
Purchase price: $25,279
 
TTL in Pennsylvania: $1,730
 
$27,009.
 
Now the next question is financing rates. $500 down, $9,509 when they get the car...financing the other $17,000.
 
Did we get a good deal? We opted to get one from another dealership rather than add the options to the dealer demo with 1300 miles (which they refused to discount)...the car will probably have a few hundred miles on it when it arrives.
 
I have a feeling in the summer, when gas goes back up, it will be really hard to sell these cars...but waiting wasn't in the cards.
 
Let me know if that looks like a good deal!
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Re: New Car Being Registered as Used Car [TahoePD] by ateixeira
Feb 12, 2009 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: TahoePD (Feb 11, 2009 4:50 pm)

I'd ask for at least 10% off the cost of a new car for a demo, despite the low miles.
 
Any less of a discount and it's just not worth it. Your warranty is shorter, for instance.
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Re: 2009 Forester 2.5X Limited, Spark Silver [jad376] by ateixeira
Feb 12, 2009 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: jad376 (Feb 11, 2009 11:28 pm)

I'd say you did just fine given the dealer probably lost money - though they hope to recover it with service visits.
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I hope the salesman got his cut, though... by jad376
Feb 12, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Here's the thing. We had a really un-salesmanlike salesman who traded emails with me for weeks before we met him. When my wife and 25-year old son arrived with me, he told us he was "the biggest Subaru geek" around, and asked to drive us around in a Forester for half an hour just to show us what it could do. I was nonplussed, but after that 30 minute drive...I learned things about the car (and my other Subarus...) that no other Subaru dealer told me.
 
For instance, I was NEVER informed that our 4-speed automatic transmissions had three modes. 1) Regular Drive; 2) Sport Mode (shifts at a higher RPM) 3) Manual Mode (when you click it over to sport and then shift it, like Tiptronic). I never was bothered to read the manual because I'm not a gearhead. Also, the drive-by-wire system and the actual brake force distribution, more specifically how it feels - were lost on me before the first half of our drive. Now, you might think this was strategy on his part to assure the price would go up...well, maybe reassurance that his final offer was worth paying.
 
The only additional money they are requesting I spend is $500 for a remote-starter. I assume the salesman would get a bonus...and with the dark interior, on a hot day a remote starter might be a good idea. Who wants to get into a blast furnace?
 
Anyone got any tips on financing? I have Tier IA credit and currently lease two Subarus.
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Re: I hope the salesman got his cut, though... [jad376] by ateixeira
Feb 12, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: jad376 (Feb 12, 2009 10:24 am)

Glad to hear he really took the time to explain things. He's one of a few.
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by jad376
Feb 14, 2009 (6:26 am)
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OK - red flag with the financing. I got 5.9% for 63 months. My son questioned it but our salesman took him out for a ride in his slammed Baja Turbo while I was in the box with the Business Manager. I checked cars101.com and found out that I was given the rate for Tier II credit - and my credit score is over 780. The current market rate for Tier I credit is 4.9%.
 
What should I do now? They drew up the paper work already and I took delivery yesterday!
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Re: [jad376] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 14, 2009 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: jad376 (Feb 14, 2009 6:26 am)

They aren't really required to give you the best rate.. dealers can and will mark up the rate for extra profit.
 
You can go back, and insist on the best rate... and see what happens (which would be my first choice). If they say no, then there isn't much that you can do, assuming they didn't misrepresent themselves (of course, if it was just orally, that wouldn't help).
 
If they are unwilling to re-write the financing, you can always turn to your local credit union or bank, and see if they can beat it.. then, re-finance.
 
Which brings me to the moral of the story: Always know what rate you can get elsewhere, before you go to the dealer. If you knew that your credit union was offering 5.29%, you could have leveraged that information in your dealings with the F&I office.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: [jad376] by sgloon
Feb 14, 2009 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: jad376 (Feb 14, 2009 6:26 am)

The question is: Did you sign the paperwork yet?
 
If so, not much you can do. Except ask. Can't hurt to follow up and ask, but if the paperwork is all signed, there isn't much incentive for the bank to change the terms.
 
If not signed, then you have much leverage and can give them the car back unless they give you the correct rate.
 
Did they give you the Subaru rate through Subaru, which is Chase Financial. Last ditch effort would be to contact Chase financial to see what they can do for you. However, if it is through the dealers bank, they were probably trying to make more money off you like the previous person noted.

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